Why did Roy Jones ruin his career the way he did?

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  1. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jorge Fernando Castro really deserves more love another south american wildman
     
  2. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Riddle me this big bruh, in Roy's prime when did he ever get hit with a punch with full on muster similar to the punches that Tarver and Johnson kayoed him with?........show me a clip of prime Roy getting hit with that type of punch and taking it like nothing.

    You can't cause Roy was just that damn good defensively.
     
  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So because I like Fernando Vargas means I have no rational? What if I put wrightfan, rahmanfan, ruizfan, tysonfan, cottofan?

    Also, did I say RJJ was not an ATG? He is. I said he could have been THE BEST. Read my ****ing post before you spout out your mouth. Also, Woods was a scrub at the time. Yes, he did have success after Jones, but look who he fought. He fought an older Gonzalez, Delislie (GARBAGE), and Johnson (who beat him twice, the draw was BS).

    I ain't even gonna waste my time if that's all your ignorant ass is gonna say bout my username. I picked a fighter I loved back in hsi hay day. I love how desperate you are to try and use my username against me.
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch

    That one punch I talked about was ANYTHING but partial. Stop being ignorant.
     
  5. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhPMQo8k1gg[/ame]

    40 seconds in. TELL ME THAT AIN'T A HARD ****ING SHOT!
     
  6. Snakefist

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  7. BENNY BLANCO

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    Good solid shot,but ultimately lacked pop due to it being an inside punch which leaves no room for leverage to gain real power.

    Nice try though.
     
  8. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did in the first fight with Montell, he did against Castro, and he did against Ruiz. Johnson's shot that hit Jones wasn't even that devastating, Jones had been getting his ass beat from the opening bell and got wobbled in the 5th by a harder shot. It was a beatdown for 8 rounds then KO'd with a shot that was at the temple. Tarvers punch was a big shot, on the basis that Jones throw a wide left hook and tarver stepped right between and got full leverage on that loaded up shot. Most people don't get hit with punches like that -- it was a nicely timed nearly perfect shot that Jones for one never even anticipated it coming. But what is your point though? Do everyone have to through loaded up punches for you to consider it a hard shot? Fighters have hit Jones harder than Johnson did when he KO'd that Jones. Hell Lou De Valle landed a harder shot than Johnson's KO blow, so did ruiz. The Johnson KO was a sign of how horrible Jones punch resistance had fallen and the fact that he was getting beat up anyways, and it didn't help him getting KTFO.

    You have massive blenders on, all you need to do is watch the fights and look at them -- he gets hit HARD against Ruiz by consecutive right hands and was getting knocked all over the place by Griffin by full leveraged shots.
     
  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** yourself. You're just trolling. I am done with you. That was a solid ass shot.
     
  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also Benny, what about the Del Valle punch? Was that not a good punch either?

    ****ing moron.
     
  11. BENNY BLANCO

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    No I'm not trolling, and why are you getting so emotional?..........I said it was a solid punch but lacked power due to no leverage being on the punch due to it being an inside punch. That punch was not in the same vein as the two kayo blows that Tarver and Johnson hit Roy with.

    Tell me where I'm wrong at?.....Or are you just gonna play the he disagrees with me so he must be trolling game.
     
  12. BENNY BLANCO

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    Read my first post in this thread.
     
  13. vargasfan1985

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    Maybe that punch wasn't a Tarver shot, but it was a heavy shot. It's an example of how Roy did get hit with a heavy shot in his prime, which you say he never really did.
     
  14. Saintpat

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    I know. Just think how good Ray Robinson would be considered if he hadn't lost 10 fights with three draws (including two against the ATG Fabio Bettini with his 18-7 record) in the last 2 1/2 years or so of his career, all past his world title champion and challenger days.

    I mean, he could have been the BEST OF ALL TIME if not for that.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    Holyfield would have walked through him, rahman was huge, he would have never chanced that. oquendo i could see, a rematch with toney everyone would want to see.... i dont think he had much confidence at heavy, nor should he have