The Henry Cooper left hook on Ali

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  1. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    He was caught while he was throwing his own left hook, that's the worst way to be hit
     
  2. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Rocky Marciano can not only 'match it', but have a better one.

    49-0-0

    The 'only' Heavyweight Champion to retire 'undefeated'.
     
  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries did retire undefeated, he just came back for a beating.
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was a very cocky kid and he got caught a good punch, simple as.

    But some people on here are going to make it into a another conspiracy theory
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With all due respect to 'The Rock' who on his record was as good as a prime Joe Frazier or George Foreman ? Would Marciano have ended his career on 49-0 if he'd faced these two gentlemen ?
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely ! The Daleks came down from Skaro because they were employed by the Nation of Islam to fire their guns at Henry's sensitive skin.
     
  7. Senor Pepe'

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    Stevie G,

    I don't think we should use the 'what if theory' when comparing
    era's.

    Rocky was an early-1950's fighter.

    And for his 'period in time', no one was better.
     
  8. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It was Sonny Banks, not Sonny Isaacs.

    And, yeah, it was an awful habit to stick with, that vulnerability to the left hook. It possibly accounts for a great deal of the damage he suffered.


    Clay v Banks

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  9. Azzer85

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    I always knew the NOI were connected, cheating *******s

    Wait...wasnt Henry a prominent member of the Nation Of Islam as well?

    Explains why Ali took the dive in that fight.
     
  10. Senor Pepe'

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    Before that June 18, 1963 bout.

    The 29 year-old 'Sir Henry', had gone 12-1-0 (7 KO's) since mid-1959.

    Henry, was by the far, the best opponent that Cassius Clay would face in
    his young career.

    But, 'Ol Enry' was 'sliced up' bad in his previous bout (March 26, 1963) with
    Dick Richardson.

    The pre-fight analysis was, could "Sir Henry's" skin around the eye's hold up to
    the 'slashing' punches of Cassius Clay.

    In a 'class act' before the fight, Cassius Clay called Henry Cooper 'a bum', and
    not worthy of a Top 10 ranking.

    Clay stated, 'This bum wouldn't even make the Top 10 Heavyweights in America. My
    sparring partners can beat him. I don't even know why I'm fighting this bum. Johansson
    retired, and he's still ranked higher than Cooper. Is this the best that these British
    can do, and don't tell me that Brian London is any good either'.
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Henry's finally been rumbled !!
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that Rocky was indeed the best of his time,Pepe. However when we discuss resumes,we're bound to compare one to another.
     
  13. jowcol

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    The Great Clapton's stint in the YB's was short lived; tho I don't think it was as early as '63. He was replaced by the Great Jeff Beck who was the lead player on ALL their famous tunes.
    Then Jeff left, for his famous career (Truth, Rough & Ready, Blow by Blow, to this day!) and Jimmy Page took over the lead guitar reins. Led Zepplin's original name was "The New Yardbirds".
    "Wait a minute, this is a boxing forum"
     
  14. Senor Pepe'

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    jowcol,,,,,

    Eric 'Slowhand' Clapton was asked to join the Yardbird's in October 1963.

    The Yardbirds then took over as the house band at the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond,
    after The Rolling Stones left.

    They recorded the famous "Five Live Yardbird's", a great album, featuring
    'Smokestack Lightning'.

    Later in March 1965, Mr. Clapton left, after not wanting to record the Hard Rock Pop Hit,
    'For Your Love', as he felt it comprimised blues roots of The Yardbird's.

    The boys then wanted 'Little' Jimmy Page to replace Eric Clapton, but Jimmy declined and
    suggested his out of work friend Jeff Beck.

    Jeff joined the band in April 1965, and by the end of the year Jeff really came into his own,
    with the great guitar work on 'Shapes of Things', the ultimate 'psychedelic rock song'.

    By mid-1966, Jimmy Page also joined the band, as a second lead guitarist. Later in the year,
    Jeff Beck was fired, and Jimmy stayed with the rest of the boys, now as a 4-piece.

    I saw The Yardbird's in August 1967, at The Village Theatre in New York. By then they were a 4-piece.

    They were raw and loud. But, the lead singer -Keith Relf was completely fried.

    Jimmy Page stood at 6' tall, but with the hair, he could have started on the New York Knicks as a
    power forward.

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  15. littleguy

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    The answer to why Clay went down is contained in Henry's autobiography, which I've managed to lose. The force of Henry's punch was measured using the latest in 1970s technology, at some research institute whose name I forget. The punch accelerated faster than a Saturn Moon Rocket, traveling at 35 mph after 5 1/2 inches, and landed with the equivalent of 3 tons per square inch. No man could stand before that punch.