RJJ is the not the GOAT, but he is the best fighter ever

Nah...he's the GOAT

 

Yea Roid was amazing...He's pretty much the fastest boxer i've seen.

 

Anybody with enough speed would get past him and break his jaw...
Besides SNV I don't know any faster fighter.

 

Roids jones jr

 

Leave that aside, nobody has the time to go at you. But your thread is intriguing, Roy Jones Jnr and his prime... Let's be perfectly honest here - The RJJ that I know is the guy who won the IBF Vacant MW Title in the undercard of Bowe-Ferguson in D.C. and showed amazing speed and awkward but very effective moves against a very solid, fundamentally and technically sound boxer Hopkins. He started his reign by officially defending his title against Thomas Tate who was tryin to intimidate him at round number one with Jones on corners and against the ropes but in the second round, one punch turned poor Tate into a tree about to fall TIMBER!!! That was the only defense of the title and he jumped from there to fight James Toney for the IBF SMW Title that Toney won from Barkley and this from Darril Van Horn, and he brilliantly outclassed Toney the same way Toney brilliantly outclassed Barkley. The difference was that b4 Toney had to knockout guys like Tim Little with a bad cut and the ref giving that last round when he broke Tim...We all know about the Vinny Pazienza mismatch, for Chrissake, the guy was a slugger and a former light welter fighting at SMW. Then, the destruction of Tony Thompson was as amazing as Tate's at 160.He wanted to move up so Lucas went for the money and the fame and lost his chance at the IBF SMW Championship not fighting to the final bell , anyway he was too far behind on the judges scorecards, and Bryant Brannon was another victim of getting caught cold in the second round. So this is what I say for the Jones I knew.

Mike McCallum clearly didn't make the right option to move up to LHW just to beat or outclass Jeff Harding so he lost a shutout 120-107 on all judges cards but survived the 12 rounder and losing the WBC LHWT Champ for Jones. Then came the two Griffin fights with Montell doing a conman act in the first meeting and getting Jones mad to make him a victim like the aforementioned MW Thomas Tate and SMW Tony Thorton, Montell made threee times as much money as he could by beating Toney twice and by fighting Jones twice. Jones caught up with a guy who was no longer undefeated, once WBA-IBF LHWT Champion but the same way Virgil Hill won it from Maske, he lost his second fight ( first to Tommy Hearns) to Michalczwski in Germany. Sure Jones had a brilliant win by way of stoppage and with a body shot in the fourth but he should have fought Dariusz, not Virgill. Lou De Valle was the WBA Champ so what ? he was up coming and didn't have the experience, Jones outlanded him by a mile. Otis Grant, Richard Frazier, those fights don't say nothing, the real unification began when he put 2 titles on the line WBC-WBA for Reggie Johnson's IBF LHWT Title and we know Reggie was a good MW ( when he beat Collins and lost a split decision to Toney, actually dropped Toney in their fight). Richard Hall, David Telesco, Eric Harding, all pointless points wins or late stopapges. I consider Derrick Harmon in the same category of the Telescos and the others but Jones won another title in the process, The International Boxing Organization title and the J C Gonzales RIP who defeated Dariusz, he won the World Boxing Federation Title and the vacant International Boxing association title, the five titles WBA, WBC, IBF, WBF, the IBO and the Super WBA LHWT Titles by stopping Glen Kelly and Clinton Woods.

Now, you tell me if he fought and won so many titles justlikethat, snapping yo fingers, no! He really was at his prime even when he beat Ruiz for the WBA HWT Title. But is this prime enough to beat just for instance Ray Robinson at MW? No! Is this prime sufficient to beat the best SMWs in the word of his era? Not all of them, maybe not even Nigel Benn or Steve Collins... The guys that he beat at LHWT were guys that would have made a Ray Robinson fail against Joey Maxim at the NY Giants St or a Archie Moore? No! Was the Roy who stepped up to HW to beat Ruiz a guy who would beat a Rocky Marciano, a Jersey Joe Walcott, a prime Joe Louis, a prime Muhammad Ali, even Lennox, Bowe or a prime Holyfield? I tell you, not even the Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko brothers, that means that he wouldn't be able to do better than Chris Byrd.

 

Sorry but his Glass Jaw eliminates him from this right off the bat. And he didn't face the fighters that were available to him to prove this either. We will never know because Jones was reluctant to make the Big Fights.

Head to head with his Chin he would get destroyed against other ATG's we are not talking about him up against the Otis Grant's, Glen Kelly's, and Richard Hall's. Or even Clinton Woods.

Hagler, SRR, Foster, Moore, Spinks, Patterson, Tunney etc would shatter that fragile Glass Jaw in brutal and embarrassing fashion.

 

Jones chin was fine, up until he boiled down from heavy to light heavy. Chris Byrd did the same thing and went from being a durable guy who lasted 12 with Wlad, to getting stopped by a journeyman.

In his prime, Roy Jones Junior was invincible. Prime 168 Roy savages a lot of good heavies, even coming in at 168.

 

he had that unconventional style that caught the eye...

but the list of guys he ducked stains his achievements, and his ability to take a punch was non-existant, one of my favorite KO's has Roy as the star act:

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what a brutal and embarrassing KO. Jones has no Chin. None.

 

Not even going to respond to such garbage. There is a reason when Jones did go up to Heavyweight he handpicked a guy that had not had a KO in almost 5 years and some of the worst skills known to man. :rofl

 

No one from 160-175 would have been favoured over Jones. No one. None. Too powerful, too fast, too good.

 

Jones' jaw wasn't glass until after Tarver knocked him out..

It held up fine against fellow ATG's Hopkins and Toney.

 

:deal glass jaw or not, He's a H2H beast and would beat damn near any champ @ his weightclass in his prime.

 

Just like Floyd all he is, is handspeed




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