Joe Calzaghe is the least proven, most managed undefeated fighter that ever lived

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  1. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he destroyed that version of roy, dominated every round except the 1st.
    the age gap is only 3 years between them, calzaghe and jones were at the twilight of their careers. this fight shows imo that calzaghe was better on the night and a stylistic nightmare whenever they fought meaning calzaghe whoops him 7 days a week twice on sunday.

    americas best SMW ward couldnt beat kessler as decisively as calzaghe did. who else has beat jones the way calzaghe did....name me one person who dominated the way calzaghe dominated jones?
    dont say tarver or lebedev cos these boys were losing the fight until they knocked him out.

    americans....get over it....calzaghe owned you guys...infact he even beat one of ur HW champs chris byrd....stopped him in fact rotfl:rofl
     
  2. Imperial1

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    You got me there but wait isn't he a boxer and aren't we talking about legacy ? Oh ok must have got it wrong then :lol: He only chose to fight these American legends when they were long past their best .Hey if that makes you sleep better at night fine .The rest of the boxing world knows the truth ..
     
  3. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Hopkins was prime, hence all his best wins came after Joe, and not against blown up featherweights.

    Rjj knew never to face people who would expose him, Benn, McClennan, anyone with speed and power, he was happy to fight green Hopkins, Steroid slow coach drained Toney, and other hypejobs of that ilk. Mainly sanitation workers:verysad
    Prime Calzaghe never had a break because he wasn't black and wasn't American, that is a harsh fact.:-(
     
  4. speedy2056

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    You need to watch more Eubank if you think he was "blowing through opponents" in his prime. He was very credible. Stop with the denial ****!
     
  5. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep.Why do people bother commenting on fighters they blatantly know nothing about? Why bother?
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Age gap shouldnt be taken that seriously.

    - The age gap between Danny Green and Roy Jones was 3 years
    - The age gap between Carl Thompson and Chris Eubank was 2 years
    - Tyson was at his peak in the 80's, but got beaten by older fighters in Holyfield and Lennox

    Just because Roy Jones was 39, and Calzaghe was 36 that doesnt mean it was a even match up.

    Calzaghe didnt go from MW to HW then back to LHW like RJJ. Calzaghe was fighting weaker opposition and had less battle scars RJJ had.

    Calzaghe was coming of his best wins in Kessler and Hopkins. Roy Jones was fighting some bums leading up to the fight.

    Calzaghe was in his best position of his career, RJJ was in the worse position he had ever been.

    If a shot jones Jr can floor Calzaghe, then a prime version would have KTFO him.

    :patsch:patsch

    Ward won every round against Kessler, Calzaghe lost about 4 rounds.

    Glen Johnson KO9 Roy Jones Jr

    Johnson dominated every minute of every round, and Knocked RJJ out cold. Also he beat a more fresh version of RJJ than Calzaghe did.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haha!

    Smashed everyone with ease? Really?

    Bloated? Really?

    Half dead Calzaghe? Really?

    They were right to duck a prime Calzaghe? Ha!

    NEWSFLASH!

    He won a controversial split decision against Hopkins.

    He had to starve himself, and run in the welsh mountains to make 168 during the last 4 years of his career. He felt stronger at 175 because he didn't have to starve himself and lose as much weight. He had much better camps for Hopkins and Roy because of this.

    Late 2007 Joe said "I feel great! I'm a much better fighter now, than what I was ten years ago. I'm more complete. My hands aren't as strong, but I'm a better all round fighter. This version of me would have kicked the Eubank version of me, all around the ring!"

    A year before in 2006, regarding a possible fight with Roy, he said "Roy Jones was a great fighter man! But now he's finisshed! He's not the same fighter as what he once was, and a fight against him now would be pointless!"

    He also said words to that affect early in 2008, before he fought him in November.

    Roy was 9 weeks from his 40th Birthday, and he'd been knocked out twice over 4 years previously at 35 years of age. He went into that fight at 3-3 in his last 6 fights. His comeback wins were against Amaju, Hanshaw, and Trinidad who hadn't fought for nearly 4 years! They had an agreed catchweight of a 170 pounds, and Tito couldn't even make the weight. It was a joke! Roy certainly didn't school him either.

    You can't give Joe any credit for his victory over Roy, after what he'd said in 2006 and 2008.

    As for ducking? Ha!

    Joe spent his whole career fighting at 168 in Britain.

    Roy was in America at 175.

    He refused to travel and move up in weight, until he eventually did it in 2008.

    So an earlier fight between Roy and Joe, wasn't at all viable.

    So have a think about these following facts, and then get back to me.

    Regards, Loudon.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No! He never had a break, because he stayed in Britain at 168 fighting the Reid's, Veit's, McIntyre's, and Woodhalls of the world!

    Mainly sanitation workers? Yeah like Griffin, Hill, Reggie Johnson, Harding, Tarver.

    He became a four weight world champion by fighting dinnerladies!

    Idiot!
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Liseten for the Hopkins fight he gets all the credit he deserves .Hopkins ducked Joe in 02 and I always felt that Joe had the style to beat Hopkins at any stage ..I mean look at Hopkins losses :Jones ,Calzaghe ,Taylor and Dawson all boxers !


    Funny Hopkins and Toney were hall of famers in their prime who Jones handled with ease while stay at home Joe was fighting the murderous Mario Veits of the world .I like how people like to say he fought nothing but sanitation workers yet when Toney called out the likes of Benn and Euank they wanted nothing to do with him yet Jones moved up to fight him :lol:Get a clue man .

    And Joe only gets shitted on because people like you like to make him out be better than he really was !
     
  10. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe had not reached his prime yet and was still very green. So it was a non-prime Eubank v non-prime Calzaghe.

    In my opinion, Calzaghe's win over Eubank is better than Froch's win over Johnson.

    Besides, Joe was due to fight WBO champ Steve Collins. Collins pulled out. How is this being well-managed? How can you cherry-pick reigning champion Steve Collins?
     
  11. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe had to fight Mario Veit. He was Joe's mandatory on both occasions. But rather than ridicule the fighter give Joe the credit for beating Veit the way he did.
     
  12. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSOTkRrQuys[/ame]
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Right yet I have to listen to " Jones fought nothing but sanitation workers " Did you miss that ?
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    BIg N Bad,

    I love all of this "Joe and Roy were only 3 years apart rubbish"

    The nearly 4 year gap is completely irrelevant!

    What's relevant is,

    Roy had been knocked the **** out 4 YEARS before he fought Joe when he was 35 years of age. He'd been knocked out twice at 35.

    Over four years later, Joe beat him on points , 9 weeks from his 40th birthday, and two years after he'd said "Roy Jones is finished, and a fight with him at this point would be completely pointless."

    Also, Just a year after Joe had beaten Roy on points, Danny Green knocked him out in under 3 mins!

    Get some perspective!

    The fight was a joke! Joe dismissed him on two seperate occasions, once in 2006, and once in 2008 at the start of the year. He then changed his mind, to cash in his chips for his retirement!

    Glen Johnson dominated Roy and knocked him cold FOUR YEARS before Joe fought him, and you want to give Joe credit? Ha!

    As for Joe whooping Roy earlier,

    He struggled with Reid, and he struggled with Kessler for 7 rounds.

    A guy that has that much trouble with Reid and Kessler, IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT A PEAK 168 VERSION OF ROY JONES!

    It's a joke!
     
  15. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Eubank was semi retired, past his best and weight drained.

    I would think Glen Johnson of the Froch fight would beat Eubank of the Calzaghe fight. But Calzaghe dealt with Eubank in a more impressive manner than Froch dealt with Johnson so those wins are fairly even.