Joe Calzaghe is the least proven, most managed undefeated fighter that ever lived

Stop the presses!! Kellerman, Steward and Leonard all said Joe was so great, so that all of a sudden makes it fact? I see, well those gentleman are entitled to their OPINIONS, just as I am entitled to mine. Tell you what, the nnext time someone is talking ATG's in the history of the fight game and Calslappy is being mentioned with SRR, Armstrong and those guys let me know. Shortly afterwards Hell will freeze over.....

 

I completely agree. I think Joe was a fantastic fighter, with great skills, but I don't think he was good enough to beat Roy at his best. I think Joe himself also knows that.

 

Great post!

 

He even admitted it !

I agree he's an excellent fighter ,can't argue the skills but he just wasn't in Jones league .

 

No, and there's no shame in that at all.

 

This is why the real deal realsoulja is the most feared man on ESB. Observe:-

That was TheGenius shitting in his pants, and then realising he is about to get owned he states:-

A quick change of tune this is what realsoulja does:-

Glen Johnson was preparing for Carl Froch 100%.
Chris Eubank was preparing for Mark Prince, and then with 2 weeks notice had to change up to Joe Calzaghe.

Glen Johnson was preparing for Carl Froch at SMW.
Chris Eubank was preparing for Mark Prince at LHW, and then with 2 weeks notice had to change up to Joe Calzaghe at SMW.

Carl Froch was looking ahead at the Super6 final.
Joe Calzaghe was fighting for the WBO title first time ever.

Chris Eubanks two fights prior and two fights after Joe Calzaghe were at Cruiserweight, 2 divisions north of where he fought Calzaghe.

And why did you chat some ****, Johnson was in control against Allan Green.

Me personally, I rate the Froch win over Johnson, it is a good win. Froch was up against a big puncher and wasnt stunned once despite being hit on his jaw multiple times. Calzaghe on the other hand, was being rocked by a weight drained semi retired money hungry Eubank.

 

126 replies and this thread should have been done after the first response.

 

yeah I'd go with that. He wasnt able to land any world title fights at MW, but he thrived in the diluted SMW, as soon as he moved up he got a title shot.

He was good, but not good enough to land big fights at MW.

 

Good post! I have no doubts I've been a fan of, and watching Joe C, longer then most of his obnoxious fanboys here. When one saw him fight, it was difficult NOT to be a fan. And for years I had hope he would make a move, because I thought he was being wasted at home turf fights against the weakest rated competition. But the Lacy fight was a good one to take, and you are right, no one really knew Lacy would be a bust. But at least he fought him. And props for that. And the Kessler fight as well. Was the best fight at 168 to be made at the time.It's just too bad he missed out on a few guys that WOULD have given his resume more strength. We all know the Ottke debacle, and say what one will about him, he'd add his most accomplished peer to his resume had he fought him. Missed out on Eric lucas and Marcus Beyer as well. Two more names that would have been a **** load better then most of the others on his resume. But that's what happens when you held the WBO. Ask Margarito about that belt. Ask Paul Williams. It's a minor league belt (or was for the most part).He'll awlays be known as one of the best SprMWs there was. But then again, that will likley be said of Ottke as well, whether you like him or not. ANd he'll be known as one of the best British fighters. But his resume is just terribly weak, espeically for one as talented as Joe C.

 

Danny Green thrashed a world class fighter also then.

Lets take it further back.

Kevin Mcbride thrashed Mike Tyson. So did Danny Williams. Both thrashing a world class Beast of a machine, Iron Mike.

Lets take it further back.

William Joppy thrashed Hands of Stone Roberto Duran. So did Pat Lawlor.

- Danny Garcia thrashed Erik Morales.
- Holmes thrashed Ali
- Khan thrashed Barrera
- realsoulja thrashed TheGenius
- Tszyu thrashed Chavez
- Camacho thrashed Leonard and Duran


We dont need to continue. Calzaghe thrashed a shot Jones Jr, but also got thrashed in the first round.

 

oh goodness dont compare Joe to Ottke. JOe may have had 'cheat' stoppages in Wales, but at least his opponents were in on them and didnt want to continue. Joe never had a loss turned into a win like Ottke had on several occasions.

Joe was a legacy builder but Ottke was a cheat, theres a big difference.

 

I really wish Joe Calzaghe had never taken the roy jones fight, its such a stain on his career.

Its the kind of fight, against a pastit star, that young fighters should have had when they are up and coming, so that it gives them an easy fight but also a win over a 'name' so that they can get more impetus on a world title challenge. Joe aready had won titles, so he should have been showing he was a champion, not beating up oldies! Shame, really.

But he didnt do bad befroe he resorted to fighting fortysomethings, and tbh I dont blame him for doing so, its the safe option.

 

The least proven, most protected fighter who ever lived WON'T have Bernard Hopkins on their resume.

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kidding me, I'd face a 40something Bhop. I dont think he'd hurt me before I folded in round 2 lol.
But I'd never face him at 29, he'd give me brain damage.

 

There's truth in your post, but still, both guys preferred to fight at him, and racked up the same number of title defenses. Hell, bogus decisions aside, Ottke's best wins at 168 do compare to Joe's.
What really kills be about this, is TWO guys making a record number of title defenses AT THE SAME TIME. That's just ridiculous, and says a lot about boing today.