Didn't Miguel Cotto Already Turn Down a pacquiao Catchweight Rematch Last Year?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    DLH was STILL the cash cow of boxing. He can even the playing field, or tilt it in his favor, if he wanted to at the time. IF DLH asked for 150, you can bet the fight likley would not have happened.
    AGAIN, it's a different set of curcumstance that you just refuse to acknowldge.
    There's no hypocrisy here, hell, that word isn't even apt for this situation.
     
  2. jeffjoiner

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    Cotto is too classy to make excuses. Plus, as an employee of Top Rank (who made him drain in the first place) he knows that wouldn't work around the office.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He fought at 140 weighing in at 138 RIGHT before the Cotto fight, you realize that? And as someone said, he weighed in at 142 vs. DLH. You can conveniently use fight night weights if you want. But tell me this, what did Cotto weigh in at on fight night vs. Pac?
     
  4. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't matter what Cotto weighed.

    Here are the facts

    Manny fought at 147 before Cotto.
    Manny fought at 147 after Cotto.

    Manny claimed to be too small to fight Cotto at 147.

    It is a bald faced lie for Manny to say he is too small to do something he had already done and would do again.
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny he agrees to the catch-weight for HIS title that benefits MANNY while signed under Arum.. He says it's no problem after the fight, while signed under Arum.. Soon as he gets away he says **** going down in weight to sacrifice my body for Pac again. :think

    What would Arum's reaction have been if Cotto refused to fight Pac at a catch-weight for HIS title? :think What would Arum's reaction have been if Cotto said only reason he lost is because Manny drained him lower than he wanted to go? :think

    Shelf? :err

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  6. greg turchy

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    They don't get it....their agendas won't allow it..

    This place is crawling with Top Rank shills...:deal
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    i agree. but i would rather believe his statements immediately after the fight. actually, FH's interviewer tried to make cotto spill out something he wants by trying to say that he didn't weigh at 145 since 2006 but cotto just brushed it off saying the weight is fine and he feels good at the weight. on fight night, he was more conditioned when he weighed 146 against clottey. it's just that bad that he fought pac (an ATG) at his utmost peak and outclassed him, no shame in that.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    people back then does not even see pac as a legitimate WW. they have been saying that the oscar win at WW is a fluke and he is not a natural WW at the time. back then cotto was seen as a small WW. 145 concession from both sides is totally fair.
     
  9. jeffjoiner

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    People back then saw Cotto as the legitimate welterweight champion. The welterweight limit is 147 pounds.

    Manny was the cash cow, so he made Cotto fight below the limit in order to get an advantage. Now, his fans are pissed Manny doesn't get full credit for beating Cotto.

    This whole debate would never have happened had Manny just fought at the welterweight limit. Something he had previously done and would do in his very next fight.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    i agree but don't make excuses out of the blue that cotto is suddenly drained to which he claimed he was not. he actually said the opposite and he felt good at the weight. some ***** dickriders even argue that there is a rehydration clause which floyd demanded against winky.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    When you are trying to say how badly Cott was drained, then yes it does matter. And also when you try to use Pac's in ring weight vs. DLH, as some form of proof he fought at the full WW limit, then again, it does matter.
    You aren't being consistent here, nor taking into consideration the dates and weight of Pac's prior fights to Cotto. You're basically jumping all over the place.

    So, like I said, RIGHT before the Cotto fight, he weighed 138 vs. Hatton. And before THAT fight, against DLH, he weighed 142. So asking Cotto to come down one measly pound fomr Cotto's own previous weight, to MAKE the fight closer, isn't a stretch. You and the others are acting like Pac weighed 147 vs, DLH, so he should have let Cotto do that. DLH had pull, Cotto not the same kind. And as many have ALREADYsaid, 145 was Cotto's counter request.
     
  12. SJS19

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    Question.

    Please explain the following :

    Okay to fight DLH at 147
    Refuses to fight Mosley at 147.
    Refuses to fight Mosley at 145.
    Offers to fight Mosley at 142.

    Refuses to fight Cotto at 147.
    Offers to fight Cotto at 145. (Which was refused to Mosley, the #1 WW in the world.)
    Fights Clottey at WW Limit.
     
  13. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What the hell happened to Clottey after his Pac fight? He did one interview after claiming **** wasn't right in that fight and has only had one fight since? Vs. who? And wasn't it only an 8 rounder? :lol:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ9JGT4Efw&feature=related"]Clottey Video[/ame]

    Did he say Arum said you have to do that way it's good for business?
    Did he say if he pushed a little it would kill him, nobody would see him again?
    He was dancing in the ring to try and forget about what was happening?
    He won't talk about this again after this interview because what we say about the past will hurt the future?
    I lost to him because I have to lose that day.
    It was an off day. It was an off day.
    We shouldn't talk about the past, and talk about the present because I'm through with that phase.

    Cotto was scared to speak his mind!! :nut :lol::lol:
     
  14. Divi253

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    :nut:nut
     
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