Didn't Miguel Cotto Already Turn Down a pacquiao Catchweight Rematch Last Year?

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he said that in hyping up another fight with floyd. :lol:

    i would believe a cotto interview who has no ill will after the fight rather than some bs hype interview for an upcoming fight which is 3 years later.
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  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay.. I just figured he was allowed to (and should be allowed to) weigh in at 147 because it's a WW fight.. could be because of pull though.. Cotto shouldn't need pull to fight for his WW title at the full limit though, should he?

    He asked why not Mosley when Mosley was willing to go to 145, where Pac fought Cotto at.. Since Pac wanted a catch-weight, fighting Mosley the #1 when he was willing to go down to that weight would have looked better, because after he could have fought Cotto for the title at the full WW limit.

    Cotto himself said he will not drain himself for Pac again....

    I agree about the re-hydration clause BS and all the petty arguments thrown.. But I think some posters in here have valid questions, and we can't just bunch everything together as BS petty games.

    There's no rule, but when a large part of your claim to fame is claiming titles in all these weight classes, it upset boxing fans when they know a few weren't at the full limit.. And we'll never know how those fights would have gone if they were fought at the full limit.. Seems like he's cheating history to some.
     
  3. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First, this thread isn't about Floyd.. Deflection doesn't take away from the topic at hand..
    Second, what was Floyd at that time, 140lber? What was Wright, 160lber? So you think it's fair for Floyd to go up 14lbs and Wright only have to come down 6? :lol: :roll:
     
  4. Divi253

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    Ammo for what? I just found that little piece about what Cotto would owe if he came in overweight and decided to share it.. It simply shows that Pac is serious about what his opponents weigh, because it's obviously a huge factor to him. Do you know anyone else that puts that big of a penalty on coming in overweight?
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    winky was going down to 154 to meet floyd. floyd actually fought at 147 next. but floyd asked for a rehydration clause? why?
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

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    so what's the problem with a penalty if you come overweight? fighters are supposed to make weight aren't they?
     
  7. Divi253

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    :lol: Because it fits your agenda? Who are you to say the interview immediately after Pac had no ill will, but the interview BEFORE he signed to fight Floyd was a BS hype interview 3 years later? :lol: :patsch

    You didn't answer the questions.. You don't find it coincidental he took the fight against the Top Rank cash cow at a catch-weight under Arum? You don't find it coincidental he said the weight was no problem against the Top Rank cash cow while under Arum? But as soon as he left he said he won't drain himself again for Pac?

    You don't find it odd Clottey has pretty much completely disappeared after he did that interview I posted a few pages back? 36-4, with his only losses being champion Antonio Margarito, champion Miguel Cotto, champion Manny Pacquiao and a DQ loss? Sounds like a fighter that should have been able to continue his career..
     
  8. Divi253

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    Again, it's in a different thread for a reason. Fight didn't happen, thus no rehydration clause ever happened.

    Who said it was a problem? I just said Manny is very serious about the weight his opponent comes in at, whether it be the full limit or below it.
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    it was a bait interview from Fighthype, FFS! the interviewer wants cotto to say that it affects him but cotto didn't say any ****. he has no pressure to lie about it and gave pac his props. he said that he felt good about making the weight.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

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    Does it matter if anyone else does that? Maybe if Escabedo did that, Broner would have made his weight. Maybe if Chico did that TWICE vs. Castillo, he too would made weight as well. I don't care if ANYONE does that, what I care about it, you make the weight you are supposed to.
    When an opponents doesn't make weight, the other fighter has a right to refuse to fight. If that happens and they don't fight, they don't get paid. And they just wasted 3 months of their time. And what about fights on television? There's millions invested that can be lost becuase one guy decided he can't make weight. It puts an unfair pressure on the other guy who busted his ass to make weight.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    it never happened because floyd priced himself out after winky agreeing to go down to 154 and agreeing to floyd's rehydration clause.

    so penalty should not be an issue. even floyd paid marquez so that he can have several pounds of weight advantage over him.
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you again ignore every question I put at the bottom. Good job! :thumbsup
     
  13. Divi253

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    :thumbsup Just asking why Pac is the only one we know of that does that.. You could say star power, but I don't know of when ODLH or Floyd Mayweather have put such stiff penalties on coming in overweight.. Which is why I stated Pac opponents weight is a huge factor to him.. If you have examples of others doing it, cash cows or not, I'd love to hear it..
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    you are referencing clottey? FYI, clottey has a history of fading into oblivion even before the pac fight. :patsch :lol:
     
  15. Divi253

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    I never said it was an issue... Not everything posted on this board has to be an argument or somebody trying to one up the other.. I simply made an observation that Pac's opponents weight is a huge factor to him. :yep