to those disagreeing with olympic results

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ncc84, Aug 12, 2012.


  1. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The 'similar score' is part of it, that's what I am talking about. That thing you mentioned about pressing the button within one second of each other, is not part of it, they don't do that anymore.

    People aren't counting the clean scoring punches with the knuckle part of the glove.
    Amateur boxing is very strict about what counts as a scoring punch. People are scoring rounds as though they are professional bouts.

    If you watch some of these bouts again and actually count the punches that land cleanly, you'll see that rounds that looked even were actually won clearly by a fighter.
     
  2. Maximus

    Maximus TKO6 Full Member

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    I was sort of scoring it right, trying to count clean punches. I get your point though, I think too many people were being swayed by flashy combos and finishing rounds strongly.
     
  3. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Audley Harrison was a very good amateur, his size and technique made for a very good shw. but remember, he was 28 when he won, the majority of boxers in the olympics are much younger and less experienced. Lezin was probably the best boxer in those games also more experienced at 27, and audley's win over him was a controversial stoppage.

    Audley didn't turn pro until he was about 30, then fought nobodies for 5 years, so he was 35 without the experience at the top level to make up for his age when he tried to compete with a higher class of boxer,
    if he turned pro when he was 23 we would all have a very different opinion of him.
     
  4. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

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  5. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I must be british to think that in order to have a valid opinion on the outcome of a sporting contest, one must know how the fight is scored and keep score as the contest progresses
     
  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the old system I believe.
     
  7. haworths623

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    Do they **** but the rules are **** anyway.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I did'nt care to view a single Olympic fight this Olympics, but I will say that if Olympic boxing has gotten rid of the system where a computer allegedly counts punches, its got to be an improvement over that lousy way of various people needing to push a button within a second time frame in order for the punch to count.
    That method was an absolute disaster! :-(
     
  9. speedy2056

    speedy2056 Member Full Member

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    Yeah, because fighting younger would have improved his heart. (!)
     
  10. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    I believe it's one point for a scoring punch with is landed with the knuckle area of the gloves, standing 8 counts don't make a difference to scoring and a foul the person fouled is given 2 scoring punches, not 100% though.

    Don't agree with the scoring system, but the scoring system was correct in the majority of fights.
     
  11. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not really sure what your point is with this post, are you suggesting that age doesn't make any difference to a boxer?
    If he went professional younger he would have had more chance to adjust to the professional version of the sport, and he would have been faster, fitter etc.

    His first decent opponent was danny williams when he was about 35, a fight which he lost, if he had fought this level of opponent 7 years earlier he would not have faltered at this level of opponent and his progress would have been much better. A 28 year old Audley with 5 years pro experience would have been much better than a 35 year old audley with 5 years as a pro fighting a very low level of opposition. So his career progression would have been very different.

    35 year olds in modern heavyweight boxing are able to be very successful; wlad, vitali, lewis, holyfield etc but these boxers had vast experience of fighting at the top level, often 10 years or more of high class opponents. Audley was a 35 year old without that experience
     
  12. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's basically it, and then an average for each boxer is calculated based on the 3 judges scores that were closest together for each boxer respectively after each round.

    If you keep score as the fight progresses you will see the rounds very differently. The 3rd round against Cammarelle looked very close, until you actually count the landed punches. You'll see Joshua did out land him by a long way. This isn't a matter of opinion, if you do it you will come to the same conclusion.
     
  13. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    My gawd I hope this is true...
     
  14. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Headgear is light and it is used to stop cuts and of course headbutts that can really do facial damage.

    We all know how quick they are to call a standing 8 or to stop a fight. A cut will be a disaaster for a fighter, even if they win they will not make it through tournments.
     
  15. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I agree with this. I really don't really see the problem with headgear. Herbie Hide won a quarter final in prizefighter but suffered a cut and had to withdraw. This could ruin an amateur competition.