More skilled: Pernell Whitaker or Sugar Ray Leonard

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, Aug 11, 2012.


  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Probably, Evo Stik. :good
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I appreciate your point but power is a skill as is speed .. Leonard was faster, Leonard hit harder .. I think Pea was exceptional but Ray was even better, a more complete fighter ... as far as head to head, come on ...
     
  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Outwith speed and power, Whitaker had more variety.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    On the actual thread title... Whitaker has the slight edge in actual boxing skills... but throw in the other attributes of Leonard like speed, power, finishing instinct & athleticism & I`d say Leonard has an equally slight edge in being a better overall fighter, even in a pound for pound sense... its splitting **** hairs tho so I have no problems with anyone that thinks the opposite, as long as they are sane enough to acknowledge its very close.

    These guys are the elite of this sport afterall.

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  5. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He ran cuz he doesnt have the skills to stand toe to toe without getting hit. PERIOD. Floyd used to run, because Back then he tried to copy Ali and SRL a little bit. He stopped doing it once he realized he was better than them.
     
  6. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Read the posts, I already proved my point. SRL had to run to avoid punches. Pernell and Floyd could stand right in front of you without getting touched.
     
  7. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRL couldnt even tap little druan with a jab, he wont land anything on Floyd Im afraid. And with his lack of defense, He would get picked apart. Im sorry.
     
  8. Robbi

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  9. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know its tough Robbi boy. I think people LOVE giving legends of past eras, WAY more credit than they deserve when it comes to comparing them to fighters of the present day eras. Lets say Broner fights the best, some new great fighters come, he beats them all, and remains unbeaten. NO one will EVER say he was better than Floyd. Even if he does enough to get the mention. Thats just how you all's brains work. SRL has a much better legacy than Floyd, but people hate to admit his skills were limited. He only beat guys because of his speed advantage combined with range. He had no defense, he relied on his range, and footspeed to avoid punches. Couldnt even tap little Duran with a jab. As far as him fighting Floyd, he couldnt even tap Duran with a jab. He wont hit Floyd with ANYTHING. Little Duran landed all those bombs on that bum. With Floyd's accuracy it would be a Mayweather-White-Wash. SRL was pretend-slick compared to Mayweather. Mayweather at his prime, was a magical boxing-android sent from another planet. SRL is almost a bum in comparison. Sorry.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    If you believe this... you shouldn`t be posting on this thread in all honesty.

    If your doing this for a laugh of some sort... your a weird little ****er.

    Either way, leave floyd out of the thread because he simply doesn`t belong in it, period.

    :good
     
  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Money may had d checkhook

    Witaker nd Lenard cant hang wit dis
     
  12. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its just simple math man. People love giving past legends more credit than they deserve, but when someone can literally break down every single detail of why your wrong, people want to get mad. "How dare you say SRL One of the True Goats, is not as Good as Mayweather!?!?!?!?. How Dare you!" I didnt just say it, I proved it. One guy has more skills. a defensive wizard like Pernell and Floyd will always be lightyears better than someone like SRL. SRL was a carbon copy of Ali. Ali copied SRR didnt he? When Floyd popped up, it was something we never seen before. The shoulder roll combined with shietsload of boxing fundamentals that were FAR beyond SRL, As well as amalgamated with the reflexes of Roy Jones. Floyd was just the first of his kind.
     
  13. WhyYouLittle

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    Relying on footspeed and range to avoid punches is a defense. (A-L-I)

    Agreed. If Floyd won't face 'Little' Pacquiao, SRL would have more chance of finding a sasquatch then FMJ in the ring.

    I think you're the one from another planet.

    So am I, son. So am I.
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I was quite astonished and shocked when you said that Mayweather could beat Hearns, KingMurkaveli.

    He isn't superman. No way is he outboxing Hearns with the height and reach disadvantages. Hearns' jab was a busy and accurate one. His speed at welterweight was better than Mayweather's. His power at that weight was far superior to what Mayweather possesses too.

    No way is Mayweather standing his ground and out-punching Hearns.

    Not even a "maybe".
     
  15. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay so your admitting that SRL's skills where limited. Thats the only defense he had. Floyd and Pernell are brilliant tacticians. Why are you even still arguing, I mean the facts dont lie. You and everyone else has a habit of accidentally admitting it in different ways. Also, I dont think SRL is the type of guy that Floyd would have any problems with, let alone ducking. Floyd told SRL to his face that he would have dominated him. Look at Pacman. A guy who looked like a machine at his prime. Floyd would have more trouble with pacman, than with SRL. Fighters of the present eras, are more advanced than the older fighters. SRL was just a typical guy with footwork and speed. Nothing otherworldly, like Pac when he was throwing Mortal Combat punches at Marg and Cotto. Just accept the fact that your wrong and move along. Your trying to compare fighters from an outdated era, to fighters who are just waaaay more skilled, and more advanced. It is what it is.