Carlos Monzon vs James Toney At MW

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  1. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who wins?
     
  2. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon UD
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Monzon by decision.

    Toney has his moments.

    But Monzon's consistent work in every round earns him a clear decision win.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon would pitch a near shutout.....10-2/9-3...over 15 even wider or toney can't come out for the 15th.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    About right.
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just knew it it will b d verdict and d detailed prediction
    especially each 1 of d quoted lines above really , and even more so d "Toney had his moments" it is always d case with Toney fantasy fights but also Toney real fights

    unless he is dead b4 d 1st bell rings

    there is always 1 .


    rily ? no1 Cs Toney putting a countering exhibition on d not 2 brilliant Monzon ? Monzon did not fight like Nunn and would have been more inviting and receptive 2 counters , wouldn't he ?

    Toney was no midget Napoles or undersized Griffith , and was much more durable than them .

    If Hasim Rahman or a prime rabbit punching Sam Peters could not do it , Y would Monzon ? and Toney was shot and severely undersized by d time he fought them , which is not d assumed case here .

    No1 Cs Toney countering Monzon maybe a bit more than he could take ?
    no need 4 a high workrate , just a steady accumulation of damage over d rds against a not particularly hard hitting , not especially hard 2 hit opponent .

    Prime Jirov pressured Toney and if it was scheduled 4 15 , Jirov would have been d 1 not coming out 4d 14th .

    Could Monzon , whom did not pressure that strong , do better ? maybe 4 his own survival he could , if he pressed less , but then he'd surely not stopped James .
     
  7. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    thought i was going to come on here and see stupid **** like "toney would end up knocking monzon out late" or the just as stupid "toney is too skilled for carlos"

    but no, everyone has got it right. monzon beats toney wide on points. don't ever put this overrated piece of **** next to monzon's name ever again. thanks.
     
  8. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Monzon too cool and consistent.

    Monzon wins a decision.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    This goes down a bit like the McCallum fight, really close fight that could go either way
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dealCoudn't have said it better myself..
     
  11. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If the fight stays on the inside, Toney wins. If Monzon came keep him at the end of his jab which is the more likely scenario, he wins. I wouldn't bet against Toney dropping Monzon more significantly than Rodrigo Valdes did.

    This fight wouldn't be a shutout for Carlos like some here are saying. Toney was one of the best at middleweight.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm one of the biggest Monzon fans on ESB and I wouldn't even predict a shutout..no shutout, but a Monzon win nonetheless.
     
  13. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree. I think prime Toney is being underrated against prime Monzon but I still lean towards Carlos taking a UD.

    12 rounds, 7 - 5 or 8 - 4 for Monzon.
    15 rounds, 9 - 6 or 10 - 5 for Monzon.

    Pointswise the fight would be a little closer from the advent of Monzon being put on the floor by Toney.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Carlos had a good chance of putting Toney on the deck too.
     
  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Carlos Monzon is my go to pick in any middleweight fight. However a James Toney win is not out of the question.