01. Muhammad Ali 02. Joe Louis 03. Sonny Liston 04. Larry Holmes 05. George Foreman 06. Jack Dempsey 07. Lennox Lewis 08. Joe Frazier 09. Jack Johnson 10. Mike Tyson 11. Vitali Klitschko 12. Rocky Marciano 13. Ezzard Charles 14. Evander Holyfield 15. Floyd Patterson 16. Jersey Joe Walcott With Jeffries and Langford ranking just behind.
01 Louis 02 Ali 03 Holmes 04 Foreman 05 Lewis 06 Frazier 07 marciano 08 Holyfield 09 Johnson 10 Tyson 11 Dempsey 12 liston 13 Jeffries 14 Wlad 15 Walcott 16 charles 17 Schmeling 18 Patterson 19 Wills 20 Bowe 21 Vitali
1.ali 2.louis 3.foreman 4.holmes 5.lewis 6.liston 7.frazier 8.marciano 9.holyfield 10.johnson 11.patterson 12.walcott 13.bowe 14.norton 15.charles i dont include anyone who is not retired, holy has beeen retired since valuev imo.
1 Ali 2 Louis 3 Marciano 4 Foreman 5 Holmes 6 Lewis 7 Johnson 8 Frazier 9 Holyfield 10 Tyson 11 Liston 12 Jeffries 13 Dempsey 14 Wlad 15 Schmelling 16 Bowe 17 Wills 18 Charles 19 Patterson 20 Walcott 21 Vitali 22 Langford 23 Norton 24 Tunney 25 Sullivan
I'm staggered at the choice of liston for number 3! I've posted my top 20 or so countless times on here and the names seem pretty much the same, just in a different order.
1 Muhammad Ali 2 Joe Louis 3 Jack Johnson 4 George Foreman 5 Lennox Lewis 6 Larry Holmes 7 Rocky Marciano 8 Mike Tyson 9 Joe Frazier 10 Wlad Klitschko 11 Evander Holyfield 12 Ezzard Charles 13 James Jeffries 14 Jack Dempsey 15 Harry Wills 16 Riddick Bowe 17 Gene Tunney 18 Sonny Liston 19 Sam Langford 20 John L Sullivan can't really find room for jersey nor floyd which depresses me slightly.
Schmeling's absence should depress you as well....I like to flop them in for Sullivan, Sam & Gene, either way nice list...I love Johnson at 3 even though I don't place him that high personally.
yeah they're my next 3 actually. I rate Johnson's resume higher than most do, I can accept that but I can also comfortably defend my position so I'm OK with it. Sullivan set the bar for greatness as a HW, 7 years as undefeated champ is ridiculous. Anyone who surpasses the "bar setter" is my definition of a divisional ATG. Gene I rank pretty highly h2h, his skillset is quite unique and he was proven. Sam, I guess his resume speaks for itself and then it depends on how you see the coloured championship during the time of the colour bar. On occasion it surpassed the world championship imo and whilst Johnson was inactive and out of shape, Sam was destroying the top 5 as coloured champion. I don't really hold a flame for lineal championships, it doesn't really tell the story for me. I appreciate it does for others, I just heartedly disagree.
1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Marciano 4. Johnson 5. Lewis 6. Dempsey 7. Foreman 8. Holmes 9. Frazier 10. Tunney 11. Charles 12. Jefferies 13. Holyfield 14. Liston 15. Tyson
I'm still working my way through the heavy's but from what I know I would definitely have Dempsey and Marciano above Liston and Walcott above Charles and Patterson.
Can't believe the way you guys rank Liston!? He is easily among the 5 greatest heavyweights of all time. He was unlucky to be ducked for so many years we never saw him as a dominant champ however he cleaned the division as a contender moreso than Patterson did as the champion. He was also unlucky to run into a prime Clay. He beats them all bar Ali and possibly Louis, however I would be suprised is Joe's chin stood up to Liston's bombs.