Cassius Clay '1-A to 1-Y'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Just how do we get from '1-A' to '1-Y'.

    Rejected by the United States Army, as being 'too unqualified'.

    This is based upon, failing 'two' standard aptitude tests, for
    pre-induction qualifications.

    One for writing skills, and the other for spelling skills.

    The U.S. Army states that the IQ score was 78.

    That falls into the range of 'borderline ******ation'.

    Or, a High School Student falling into the bottom 1% of his or her
    graduating class.

    Were these 'mental aptitude tests' taken with full mental capabilities, or was
    Cassius Clay purposely told to try and 'fail the test'.
     
  2. Stevie G

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    There was a fair bit of illiteracy in the States at that time. And Dyslexia,which still was n't really known. The standard of entrance to the armed forces was dropped as more and more got sent to Vietnam to sort their local mess out.
     
  3. Senor Pepe'

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    Correct Stevie G,,,,,,

    On March 21, 1964

    Cassius Clay was originally 'rejected' by the United States Army, and his class
    was changed from '1-A' (eligible) to '1-Y' (too unqualified).

    Were there behind the scene move's by Attorney Gordon Davidson and William Faversham Jr.,
    to manipulate a way to get Cassius Clay out of serving in the military.

    I believe they were trying to protect their 'investment', and got some of the
    Selective Service Administrator's to help them out, during the original 'circus'.
     
  4. Pachilles

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    You are the load your mother should've swallowed
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    The reason Cassius changed his name,,,,,,,,,,he couldn't spell it.
     
  6. Senor Pepe'

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    Kid Clay,

    On April 18, 1960

    18 year-old - Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. 'registered' for the U. S. Military Draft, in Louisville, Kentucky
    at Local Board #47.

    If he did not register for the U. S. Military Draft, he would not have been permitted
    to compete for the U. S. Olympic Boxing Team. The Olympic Trials were held in
    San Francisco, California on May 18, 19 and 20, 1960.


    On March 9, 1962

    20 year-old - Cassius Clay was classified as '1-A' (available immediately for military service).


    On March 20, 1964

    22-year-old - Cassius Clay had a physical exam, and participated in a 2-part mental aptitude test.


    March 26, 1964

    Cassius Clay's classification was changed to '1-Y' (as being not acceptable for induction
    in the armed forces, and not qualified under current standards).
     
  7. apollack

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    In April 1960, Cassius Clay registered for the military draft.

    After the Sonny Banks fight, in 1962 Cassius Clay was classified 1-A by Local Draft Board No. 47 in Louisville, Kentucky. This meant that he was available for military service and eligible to be drafted into the U.S. Armed Forces.

    One month after winning the heavyweight title in 1964, as a result of his low score on a mental aptitude examination, Cassius Clay (Cassius X) was classified by the draft board as 1-Y. This meant that he was not qualified for induction in the armed forces under then current standards.

    In November, 1965, the metal aptitude percentile requirements for military induction were lowered from 30 to 15, apparently in light of an increased need for soldiers in the Vietnam War. Ali had scored in the 16th percentile.

    On February 17, 1966, after having been considered by the Examining Station in accordance with the current regulations, Ali was found fully acceptable for induction into the military. He was classified 1-A in accordance with his original 1962 classification.
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

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    Yes,

    Apollack,

    In 1966, Cassius Clay did have his classification of 1-Y (not qualified) changed to
    1-A (eligible) for armed service duty, due to changes in the induction qualifications.

    Cassius Clay then applied for classification as 'conscientious objector', to fulfill
    his military service as a civilian service worker.

    He was turned down by his local board (Local Board #47).

    Circumstances as to why, were never disclosed. But it appears, some animosity
    developed between some Military Authority figures, and Cassius Clay's erratic behavior,
    which ruffled some feathers in the 'political community'.

    John Starling, a local newspaper journalist, 'I know Cassius is not the brightest bulb in
    the Louisville street lights, but nobody can be that much of a moron to fail a Military aptitude test.'
     
  9. Legend X

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    So the standards were dropped because Uncle Sam needed more cannon fodder for 'Nam.

    Not that Ali would have been frontline cannon fodder. More likely he would have been given a token fitness instructor role or something like that.
     
  10. groove

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    jfk was gonna pull them out of vietnam but he got killed by his own - go figure. fight for them lying murdering scumbags. haha what a joke. ali is a hero in my eyes for standing up to the cronies.
     
  11. Senor Pepe'

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    The Skinny,

    U.S. Army Officials,

    Cassius Clay would have taught boxing to young new recruits on
    the training bases, where ever he wanted to go in the United States.

    He would have been given a 'special waiver' to still box professionally,
    and defend his Heavyweight Championship.

    The Armed Forces (Public Relations) even suggested Clay could defend
    his title near 'Military Bases' in a) Germany, b) Hawaii, c) Japan, d) Panama
    and e) Australia.

    Sounded like a 'good gig'.
     
  12. Legend X

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    It was against Nation of Islam policy to fight for Uncle Sam anyway, anywhere.
    I mean, Elijah Muhammad had served 4 years during WWII and had been charged with encouraging his followers to dodge the draft too.
    I think The Honorable Elijah Muhammad should take some credit for Ali's heroism here.
     
  13. Legend X

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    Yeah but 'Buck White' was a better gig.

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  14. Longhhorn71

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    When was the closing date???
     
  15. Legend X

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    December 13 ? :lol: