Jeffries v the Top Lhv's?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries enjoyed significant weight advantages in all his fights,the nearest in size to him was Gus Ruhlin at 200lbs.

    Given that Jeff had problems with the speedy Corbett,,the precise punch placer Fitz,and the crafty , hard hitting Choynski, how would he fare against four of the best of the Light heavyweight Champs?



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    Conn.


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    Foster.

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    Moore.

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    Spinks.

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    Fifteen rounds, modern gloves ,with Jeffries, given time to acclimatise himself to the new conditions.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Conn beats him. I think the other 3 get stopped by him over 20 rounds.
     
  3. DaveK

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    I'm confident in Conn and Spinks beating him.

    Moore and Foster may get caught, but if not, they win too. I would still bet on them, but not as confidently.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal The same picks I would make.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    All fights are scheduled for 15 rds.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    To be honest those 3 are jeffries to lose. If he can fight at a faster pace dictated by the fewer rounds he should stop them within ten really.

    All 3 are clearly superior boxers but all 3 aren't the most durable.

    He definitely stops foster or moore. Given 15 spinks probably has an even chance.

    The issue I have is that i'm asking jeffries to be an aggressive force and despite the surface opinions that he is a rough and ready brawler, he was actually a fairly intelligent boxer puncher. But he's not as skilled as these so he needs to crank up the pace more so than he's used to.

    I think gun to my head my picks stay the same over 15.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Fair enough, I see Jeffries stopping Foster, not sure about Moore.

    I'd ideally like some more input.
    Jeffries would certainly have to box at a faster pace, to get the victories, I see no reason why that would be a problem for him.
    He may find it more difficult to get stoppage wins over the shorter distance though.
     
  8. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Jeff was a big strong man who could rush and attack when he wanted, and box and move and be cautious when he wanted as well. He had excellent condition, an iron jaw, and heavy hands. He was also great at pacing himself perfectly. I think he would know to pick up the pace in a fight of 15 as opposed to 20 or 25 rounds. If you notice, Jeff always finished fights strong and usually had his foes hurt at the end with his ability to pick it up late. Basically to pick against him you have to be confident that his foes had enough speed, footwork, defense, and condition to hit and not be hit for 15 rounds, because they were not going to hurt him, and he would be able to attack without fear of being hurt and throw some heavy bombs from his 230-pound frame. The best those opponents can hope for would be to win a decision over him, and they'd all be in danger of getting KO'd at some point, because Jeff was not going to tire and he'd be able to greatly increase the pace when he needed to do so. I agree that Conn and Spinks probably had the best chances. I think Foster and Moore would get KO'd for sure.
     
  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The ruleset in thesemfights are key. If it's a 20 rounder or more, I think Jeffries will be far to durable for any of the 3. In a 12 or 15 rounder they may be able to box Jeffries well enough early on to rack up the points, withstanding a late charge from Jim and seeing it through to a close decision.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    This is pretty much how I see it.
    The reason spinks is a bit tough to pick is the tyson fight was so anomalous and i'm sure how to judge his chin in a hw matchup of this degree.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Why is Mike Spinks 'not all that durable'?
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    W, it's FIFTEEN ROUNDS
    That's twice I posted the distance:patsch:lol:
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Read my post above yours as that outlines my confusion.
     
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    I mean had spinks retired after the larry rematch would anyone call his chin anything less than iron?

    Yet we saw him fold terribly to tyson both mentally and physically.

    Is jeffries even a harder puncher than larry? It's a tough one to pick. I'm confident conn beats him. I'm confident he beats foster and moore.

    Gun to my head i'd pick him over spinks but i'm not sure I can confidently justify it.