The hypocrisy of judging cheaters...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Fijador, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. El Fijador

    El Fijador ¡Aguas! Donaire Full Member

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    Tony Margarito would have entered the ring with a cheating advantage in the Shane fight if Shane's trainer didn't notice. I agree with that statement, but the problem is all the talk of put him in the cheater hall of fame, whole career is a fraud, he sucks, asterisk his whole career etc etc.

    He is the only cheater who gets talked about with this level of hate, and his cheating never even entered the ring!

    Shane Mosley
    Roy Jones
    Lamont Peterson
    Feroz Vargas
    Etc etc

    All cheated in the actual ring! Yet when they are talked about you never hear put them in the cheater HOF, asterisk their whole career, whole career is a fraud or any of that said about them
     
  2. Malden

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    I hate them all.
     
  3. Primera

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    Mosley, Berto, Peterson, Jones, Tarver, Toney etc are all worse imo.

    They are disgusting drug cheats that should be banned for good. It's sad that so many of them still get praised by idiots.
     
  4. Phil Shad

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    :deal
     
  5. El Fijador

    El Fijador ¡Aguas! Donaire Full Member

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    That's a fair judgement though, most don't share that view only single out one guy
     
  6. SHADOW BOX

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    This is our sport. Money is worth more than anything. But then again, I think that's how most of the world is.
     
  7. Malden

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    Unfortunately, that is true. Especially if the guy in question is a favorite for the person with the view.
     
  8. assasin

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    true.

    and it wasn't solid plaster that margo had. it was just a thin flaky layer. don't think any more damage would of been done with that on the wraps.
     
  9. SJS19

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  10. Primera

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    Just a reminder, they needed a microscope to detect trace amounts of a substance that can be found in plaster of paris.
     
  11. assasin

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    but it's true though. it wasn't solid plaster.
     
  12. jeffjoiner

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    Margarito, in all likelihood, cheated in the actual ring in historically the most blatant and bitchly way possible. Loaded gloves instantly take away the possibility of a fair fight. Careers have been ruined, men have been seriously hurt.

    PEDs are a whole new ballgame. Most fans don't know exactly what advantage different substances bring, they are difficult to detect, and used by many competitors. Hell, Vargas got knocked out then tested positive, so they don't always lead to success.

    You are right that there should be a cloud of suspicion. But to think Margo got caught his first time is naive at best, blindly absent of logic at worst.
     
  13. CrossedLine

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    Roy Jones is incredible. I understand steroids are still cheating, but loaded gloves is just awful to think about, and is much worse in my book.
     
  14. Primera

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    Not in my book, cheating is cheating.
     
  15. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    PEDs are not equal to bringing a weapon in the ring.
    That is objective fact.
    Sorry.