Make the best case possible for Marquez not winning a single fight against Pacquiao

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  1. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    *******s, here is a thread to really show your chops.
     
  2. Primera

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    I had Marquez barely winning the 3rd fight 7-5.
     
  3. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If we go by the Pac/Bradley logic...then JMM has won Once for sure.
     
  4. Cletis VanDamme

    Cletis VanDamme Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez should have signed with Top Rank.
     
  5. Benji

    Benji Member Full Member

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    The first fight should of had the 3 knock down rule, TKO win for Pac.
     
  6. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    It's simple.

    They have fought to three near draws. But in the first two fights JMM lost too many points on knockdowns. In the third fight he gassed in the last three rounds and was swinging at nothing but air. The third was the closest though, and it was the best fight of JMM's career. (Not the Barerra fight. I had him losing to Barerra, like Lederman did.)
     
  7. welsh_dragon83

    welsh_dragon83 Active Member Full Member

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    cant, marquez got robbed in all 3:twisted:
     
  8. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    He lost the first one due to knockdowns. But we all know he boxed the **** out of Pac from then on, making Pac look foolish. Very lucky win for Pac, in terms of result a bit like the Ortiz fight to be honest, legal but a tad unfair on the loser, maybe more so in the Pac fight, due to him actually making Pac look amateur for 8 straight rounds.


    Second, close again, could have gone either way, although I still think Marquez performed better than Pac through the majority of the fight - looking more composed, and more in control of the fight. Pac was fortunate to get a draw, although you can make a slight case he was unfortunate to not get the decision, but then they couldnt 'rob' JMM twice could they?

    Third fight, completely exposed all the clever marketing around Pac and destroyed the myth that he had evolved into a more complete fighter. This showed that he hadnt changed since 2008, which was something many posters had already been saying. Marquez again making the wild swinging Pac look foolish, and out of his depth against a fighter that knew how to box. They thought they would kill him with the weight, probably with the Mayweather masterclass in the forefront of their minds, coupled with his age, they must of presumed this would be a walk in the park. Anyway, robbery of the year says it all.
     
  9. McGrain

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    All the fights were close on most cards.
     
  10. Hoshi

    Hoshi bigboi Full Member

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    I had Marquez winning all of them comfotably. I think Pacman is the man but he hardly wins a round. He just follows Marquez around the ring like hes in a trance.

    My scores.
    FW 2004 Pac 111- 114 Marquez
    SFW2008 Pac 112 -115 Marquez
    WW 2011 Pac 112- 116 Marquez
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not a *******, but I would say the best case that can be made is to pretend the second fight never happened.

    I scored the first for Pac and the finale a draw, myself.

    :smoke
     
  12. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The first is the only one Pacman has won in my books, he got schooled pretty hard in the third one.
     
  13. Luckyboy

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    I just believe they are evenly matched through and through. It all depends on which style you like thats the only way to separate them. for my i love marquezes patient counter punching, i have no problem people scoring it for pac over the three fights.
     
  14. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    Eh how about about he's officially lost 2 and drawn 1, pacs officially won 2 and drawn 1 and the record says its 2-0-1 in pacs favour.

    oh nd the history books will remember it like that
     
  15. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    anyone that researches it will see that JMM probably deserved 2 wins.