Does Bernard Hopkins get a pass for pricing himself out against Calzaghe and RJJ?

He had limited drawing power, best known for beating 2 welters and Carl "the squirrel" Daniels


Why did Hopkins believe he was worth more then he was?

I believe we need Team Elites expert analysis on this.

 

Roy Jones atsch

 

60-40 in Roy's favour was fair and doubling his purse request for Calzaghe after agreeing on $3m invites criticism.

For a variety of reasons, he does get more of a pass on this than other fighters would.

 

Wasn't it a 3 fight deal with Showtime and the one opponent being Joe Calzaghe ?

 

Let me see, Bernard Hopkins was never afraid to take on a challenge. He had the mentally to fight anyone, anywhere, and any time.

Not only that, his longevity was unlike any other. Hopkins remained relevant in the boxing world for over 20 years.

Also, Hopkins never lost during his prime (from 1995-2004), and his performance remained consistent throughout almost his entire career.

 

All the above is true, but he told everybody that he was desperate for the rematch with Roy in 2002, but refused to accept the 60/40 split. At the start of their famous argument on HBO, he even stated that Roy couldn't expect the biggest share of the pot. The guy was deluded! Roy had the win over him. If it was vice versa there's no way Bernard would have accepted even 50 per cent.

Regards, Loudon.

 

No

 

yes....because he really thought he's worth much more. it's not for the fear of losing and getting badly beaten up.

he was given slim to none chance against dawson, tarver, pavlik and pascal yet he took those fights.

 

maybe he wanted more from calzaghe because he knew he'd have to build up his weight to take the fight and then go down again, inevitably putting a dent in his MW ambitions?

He wanted more money for doing the hard work.

or he was playing joe to get a bigger pay packet in the future.

 

60 40 i kick yo ass.

and roy would have back then.

hopkins is a coward for pricing himself out

 

You quilt.

 

Good post Herol! I don't think Bernard had any real intentions of moving up to 168 at the time, unless it was for either a catch weight, for a rematch with Roy, or unless it was for a lot of money. I think he tried to take advantage in negotiations with Joe, because his name would have sold the fight. It wouldn't have been a big event back then, outside of Europe. At the time, Joe was unknown to the American public and FW had no power in negotiating.

Can't give him a pass for originally wanting more money than Roy for a rematch though.

Regards, Loudon.

 

Loudon

that win was a decade earlier in an undercard fight for a vacant strap and it was no big deal back then

they made it one in hindsight but that speaks of bernards improvmnts more than anything

 

Oh you can bet it was a big deal back then...

Bernard had the loss to Roy on his mind his entire career.. He considered that his only real loss.

Which is surprising to me he priced himself out against Roy. I think he knew Roy would beat him again honestly, and wanted to get all the money he could out of it.

 

it was not a mega fight

hops was not the fighter that beat trinidad years later

hop had a bad run way back then

no bearing on a fight in 2002 between 2 undisputed champs