Better Resume. Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Gotta go with Floyd man..Hopkins has a nice resume but Floyds is better imo,better names,more titles,more divisions,more time at the top
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Floyd is pricing himself out against Pacquiao. If you believe Hopkins was pricing himself out against Jones in 2002, then you better damn well hold Floyd to the same standard.

    Why did Floyd leave 135 after the tough Castillo bouts when there was still Casamayor, Raheem, Freitas there to fight at 140 against Bruseles and Gatti? We can go around in circles all day, I just think Hopkins' resume is more legendary.
     
  3. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    Honestly I'll take Diego Corrales and Jose Castillo **** all over any Hopkins victory. Other the fighters he dragged up in weight whos better?
     
  4. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd is a bigger draw than Pacquiao. Roy was a bigger draw than Hopkins.

    I imagine he was working his way toward a fight with Mosley and/or your boy.
     
  5. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    Floyd is as far away from Pacquiao talent and drawing power wise as Roy was from Hopkins in the early 2000's. Roy Jones was the draw and already schooled his ass once. Hopkins priced himself out just like he did vs Calzaghe.

    Mayweather was chasing Oscar and Shane. Corrales and Castillo were better then Frietas and Casamayor. Raheem lol? Are you serious?

    Corrales and Castillo were the best lightweights of that era. Beat both. The chased fights with Oscar and Mosley. At 140 he called out Hatton and Cotto. They both wanted no part of him. So he moved up and took Oscar at 154lbs.


    The only reason Hopkins resume deserves recognition is his age. Because the names on his resume are mediocre. How many hofers has he beaten in their own weight class? Even one?
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Corrales was not the best lightweight of the era, that would be Castillo and Casamayor, then Floyd, then Corrales.

    You say Mayweather was chasing Oscar and Shane, so why didn't he just jump to 147 and fight them? By chasing you must mean "letting them get old" and fighting the N'dus, Bruseles' and Baldomirs of the world for 4 years until finally stepping up.
     
  7. Beatle

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    Floyd never fought lots of champs and top contenders, like Margarito, Williams, Pacquiao.
     
  8. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Floyd has a large number of fighters on his record that were great for the era without being ATG, hopkins does have a them aswel but it is not as vast.
     
  9. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    How was Casa better then Corrales? Even at best. With Corrales being the more dangerous opponent.

    Nope Mayweather was calling out Oscar and Mosley since he was a lightweight. Its why he kept leaping divisions where he was absolutely dominate. He called Mosley out at 135 and Mosley priced himself out. And you can go back and look at his lightweight post fight interviews to see he was chasing Oscar.

    I have no problem with Oscar and Mosley not fighting Mayweather. Their division was stacked and Mayweather was high risk low reward.

    No reason for Hopkins not to fight Roy or Slappy Joe tho.
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Mosley and Mayweather NEVER negotiated a fight at 135. Source please because that would absolutely be news to me. The only failed fight that happened with Shane at 135 was the failed one with Johnston when it was Johnston who priced himself out.

    Corrales proved he was the lesser of the 3 when he went 2 wins and 3 losses against the other 2. Castillo was 2-1 against the other 2 and Casamayor went 2-1 against the other 2.

    Simple really.
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    If you look at who they actually beat, Mayweather gets the edge. Hopkins usually wins this debate though on the strength that he won some fights has wasn't expected to win. Both guys have very good resumes though.
     
  12. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    "In 1999, we tried to fight Shane 10 years ago and he turned the fight down and then in 2006 when he fought Fernando Vargas, right after the fight he said he had a toothache and he wanted to go on vacation with his family.


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    The first fight was a fluke. The third Corrales was shot. All 3 were even affairs. Dont see how you could seperate the 2 other then Corrales was definitely more dangerous to your health and psyche see Frietas.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Moneyteam saying Shane turned down a fight in 1999 when he was fighting at 147 and Floyd at 130 is kind of hard to believe. Need a little more info than that.

    Corrales wasn't shot in the 3rd Casamayor bout, he made a damned good account of himself and won about 4 or 5 rounds.
     
  14. pngo

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    I'd say Mayweather. I think Hopkins longevity is more impressive than his wins, but Floyd going up in weight and still beating top opponents is more impressive. So Hopkins' best win was welterweight Tito? And I don't even count his wins against fking shot Roy Jones or Winky @ 170 lbs.
     
  15. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    it was all over this forum 3 years ago. Shane was still at 135 in early 1999. Plus Floyd wanted Shane after Vargas. Dont blame Shane for that either. Oscar paid Mosley to step aside so he could fight Mayweather. But you cant blame Matweather either. Unlike bernard Floyd was willing to take the lower purse split.

    Corrales was done in 06. Couldnt even make weight anymore. The fact he still pushef Casa says it all. Btw Casa is 2-2 vs Corrales and Castillo remember. And Casa lost to Frietas