Better Resume. Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. Midwest_Chopper

    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    And Boom goes the Dynamite
     
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  2. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your name calling doesn't bother me, but I did clearly expose you as a liar.

    Why would I tell you what Mayweather's in ring weight is when you couldn't tell me? You haven't even attempted to answer my question with any actual proof. Don't try to spin that responsibility on to me. You brought up his weight and said it was a big advantage. I didn't.

    If all of the weight stuff is besides your original point, why did you lie about it and bring it up in the first place? All you had to do was stick with the conditioning, but you decided to include a bunch of other stuff with it that wasn't true. By the way, can you prove that the alleged change in conditioning was that important? Can you prove that Juan's conditioning was better?

    Mayweather is a little taller, his arms are longer and he may or may not weigh a pound or two more than them, but that's about it. There's no other size advantage that he has over Marquez or Pacquiao and one or two pounds wouldn't be a game changer if he did outweigh them. You can't fault someone for their frame and that's not what anyone uses to determine if someone is bigger than another fighter.
     
    SoxNation, Aug 17, 2012
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  3. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    The Ring magazine stated that Mayweather was 152lbs in the ring vs Marquez.
     
    Kittikasem, Aug 17, 2012
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  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I don't have the energy to nitpick the issue with you. I don't give a crap. I'm a liar, I made up the numbers because I hate Floyd Mayweather Jr., and he had no size advantage whatsoever against Marquez's fully prepared welterweight jump.

    I do remember the Ring claiming to have the weight. That makes sense for the number to sound familiar.
     
    Bogotazo, Aug 17, 2012
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  5. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At least you're man enough to admit it.
     
    SoxNation, Aug 17, 2012
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  6. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    I admit a lot of people on this site trash fighters to make their favorites look good. I trashed Vitali sometimes, others trashed Roy Jones Jr, Calzaghe etc. But you are one of the few that **** talk Hopkin's resume.

    I don't know if anyone can honestly agree with what you say.

    Listen to your opinions on Hopkins.

    1-Pavlik is a bum, he's no where NEAR as dangerous as Ricky Hatton was to Floyd.

    That is wrong and you know it. Pavlik was not a bum back when he fought Hopkins. Hopkins was a massive under dog against a undefeated 6'2 rangy MW Champion in his PRIME.

    Floyd was a favorite against Hatton. How can you say Hatton was more dangerous to Floyd and as an opponent then Pavlik was?


    2- You keep insisting Trinidad was Hopkin's best win.

    That is some weird bull**** right there. Everyone know Hopkins beat the living hell out of Tito, but that was by no means his 'best win'. You could make a case that was his 'career defining' win (if that) but it's not his best.


    3- You keep saying Tito is not a 'good MW'. Most boxing anaylsts and a lot of people feel the MW Version of Tito will still be top 5-3 in today's MW Division.

    4-The Guys Hopkins beat during his MW Run, would have beaten a fair amount of the MW'S fighting today.


    Who knows if Hopkins is >then Floyd resume wise, but Hopkin's resume sure isn't the 'trash resume' you keep insisting it is, just to boost up Floyd's standings.
     
    FelixTrinidad, Aug 18, 2012
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  7. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    Hopkin's longivity have to be taken into account.

    Him beating Prime Jean Pascal( or close to Prime Jean) is the equalivant of a 47 year old Floyd Mayweather beating a Prime top 3-4 MW, 12 years from now.


    Also, there was no way Hopkins lost both fights to Taylor. At most it was 1 win, 1 draw. HBO needed a exciting new cash cow, Taylor was supposed to be it. Then Pavlik was supposed to be it.

    Ironically Hopkins ended Pavlik.
     
    FelixTrinidad, Aug 18, 2012
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  8. Colpolite

    Colpolite Guest

    *****s give it up, look at the votes, B-hop is the clear winner.
     
    Colpolite, Aug 18, 2012
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  9. haworths623

    haworths623 Guest

    Floyd Mayweather is the better of the 2 as far as "who's better goes" but Hopkins had the better resume.
     
    haworths623, Aug 18, 2012
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  10. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    I agree.
     
    FelixTrinidad, Aug 19, 2012
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  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    as bhop/trinidad...

    still waiting.
     
    daprofessor, Aug 19, 2012
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  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Refreshing to see a poll with results true to the outcome.
     
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  13. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins and not even close. He fought everyone. Yeah he lost some but he also won a lot of them and again he fought everyone that was considered elite.. You can't really say that with floyd.
     
    Scrap21, Aug 19, 2012
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  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    bhop is in a very elite group. honestly...i think he may be alone...help me out...

    has there been another undisputed champ since bhop at middleweight? (or any weight for that matter)

    he held wbo, wbc, ibf and wba.

    taylor won them from him....but it's not the same as unifying.
     
    daprofessor, Aug 19, 2012
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  15. Dynamite Joe

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    Hopkins is an ATG no doubt. But Mayweather is the best fighter of his generation.. Possibly P4P contender for best of all time.

    On a personal level, I don't like Mayweather, but I got to rate him this high coz he is just that damn good, defence, reflexes, ring generalship. He's the total package.
     
    Dynamite Joe, Aug 19, 2012
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