bradley vs tszyu

Not Bradley

 

I would pick Tsyzu although it could be an interesting fight.

 

Tszyu is kinda underrated, i mean what have Bradley achieved? Nothing, he beat the HBO hype job in Alexander, who really should have 3 L's and got a gift against a faded pac

 

Bradley does have a nice little resume at 140 though.

Tszyu will take this by decision though.

 

He's probably achieved as much as Tyszu, unifying twice himself beating allot of top contenders at 140 but I'd still pick Tyszu to win although I'm not 100%, Tyszu didn't really like pressure and a fast pace

 

Tszyu would kick the **** outta Bradley.

 

:deal Whew...I was begining to think it was just me!

 

I don't think it'd be as one sided as many are predicting. Look for Bradley to outwork Tszyu and use just enough movement to stop Tszyu from finding his timing with the right hand.

 

Tszyu by ferocious KO. Bradley's not the hardest guy in the world to hit, and he can't eat too many right hands from Tszyu before going down and not getting back up. Tszyu had good timing, accuracy, and brutal power. Bradley simply doesn't have the power, the movement, or the skills necessary to keep Tszyu from knocking him the **** out. Bradley's like a homeless man's wannabe Andre Ward- he can do a number of things pretty well, but he's not particularly great at anything, and he doesn't have any great physical gifts other than good conditioning. His handspeed, footspeed, and power are mediocre when compared to other greats of the division.

Tszyu meanwhile is an ATG at 140. He would destroy Bradley, as would Pacquiao if this were a few years ago (Pac still won 9-3 on my card only to get screwed by the judges.)

 

ATG? Really? Tszyu has a **** poor resume. Couldn't put away an old Rog', dropped badly against Hurtado, best wins are over Judah, shot Chavez and Mitchell.

I'd say they're on about same level. A long time with the belts is the only thing that makes people rate Tszyu so high. He lost bang in the middle of his prime to Vince Phillips for ****s sake. He was robotic as well.

 

140 is/was a historically weak division as well. It hasn't been as rich with talent as the divisions immediately north and south of it. That's why Tszyu is an ATG there; he wouldn't be an ATG had he had a similar resume in another division.

At 140, the best guys historically are probably DLH, Pryor, Chavez, Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor, and Tszyu. After that, you have to start throwing in guys who spent very little time at 140 (Pacquiao), guys who fought against iffy opposition at best during their stay at 140 (Floyd Jr.) or guys who never actually fought there but conceivably could have fought there at a certain point in their career (Mosley, Duran, etc.)

And Tszyu with a thin resume? What about Bradley? His best win is probably Kendall Holt (unless you want to count Born Again Old Pacquiao as a "win," then more power to you.)

Tszyu is miles ahead of Bradley in terms of both resume and H2H ability. Bradley doesn't even match up well with Tszyu from a stylistic standpoint either.

 

Don't be telling me who the best 140lbers are historically than leaving out Ortiz, Locche, Cervantes and Mamby. You might have to include Mosley in your top ten but I've heard of Saensak Muangsurin so don't.

I also didn't say Bradley had a better resume than Tszyu.

 

Yeah, my mistake. I've seen lots of tape on guys after the mid 70s. I haven't seen as much footage on people before that. It's an oversight on my part.

I was just emphasizing how/why Tszyu is an ATG at 140; you implied Bradley was on the same level as Tszyu, which he isn't. Did you mean H2H ability? I thought you meant resume with that comment. Most feel that Tszyu is an ATG at 140 precisely because it isn't as talent-rich a division as, say, 135 or 147 have been.

You can try to argue Tszyu isn't an ATG in the big picture, but he's certainly still a level above Bradley. Trying to say Bradley and Tszyu are on roughly the same level is simply incorrect.