Top 30 fighters P4P from 1980-present

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Nothing I was making it up :lol:
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Don't out him on here as well luf!!! I feel bad about it as it is :-(
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I outed no-one :bart
     
  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thankfully there are screen shots. But honestly i'm afraid for my safety.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    :rofl F'n Hell Luf :patsch But still, smooth.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    luf is as smooth as they com :lol:
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather vs. McCallum resume comparison based on their ability at the time they fought the men they did:

    Mayweather.....vs.....McCallum
    No equivalent.............Toney
    No equivalent..............Kalambay
    DLH...........................Curry (Floyd had a size disadvantage, but I'd still say that Curry was in better nick than DLH)
    Castillo.......................No equivalent
    Corrales......................Jackson
    Hatton........................Harding
    Cotto.........................Watson
    Mosley........................Collins
    JMM............................McCrory
    Hernandez...................No equivalent
    Judah.........................Graham
    Vargas........................No equivalent
    Chavez.......................Braxton
    Baldomir......................No equivalent
    Manfredy.....................No equivalent
    Gatti...........................Minchillo
    Corley.........................No equivalent


    Overall I'd say they are pretty even.

    Floyd has more depth, Mike has more quality at the top end.

    Floyd is more 'dominant', of course throw a ROy Jones level fighter at him at this stage and that nonsense stops right now.

    Mike's loss to Kalambay in his prime is more honourable than what I take to be Mayweather's defeat to Castillo, given than Kalambay was the better fighter ability wise.
    I also, perhaps deludely think that the DLH fight wasn't a clear win for Floyd, so that down grades his performance there.

    As far as the Toney trilogy goes, 201 for Toney there, Mike taking the second.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    I had the De La Hoya fight very close and found Floyd's application in the 2nd half possible due to Oscar's decline (never had 12 round stamina) and ditching of the jab.
     
  9. sweet_scientist

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    He definitely faded down the stretch, as was his custom, although the 12th round was a decent round you could argue he won.

    Overall I just found Mayweather's performance underwhelming.

    Of course, a pot shotter will always look bad against a guy with a turtle shell D.

    Hence his efforts against DLH & Cotto.
     
  10. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    How about Gilberto Roman?
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Roman was class as well, in that mix. Less efficient than Laciar though IMO, shorter prime and handled Kongtoranee less well than Khaosai. Lacier has the longevity even if their series was close. Roman was pretty one dimensional IMO, damn good at what he did of course. Past it by the time he faced Moon but a horrible matchup for him at any time.

    He'd be up there. On Konadu's level moreso IMO. I have Roman-Watanabe on my channel and the Payakaroon fight will be up later today :thumbsup
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. MAG1965

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    Mayweather and Chavez a few places too high. Whitaker below Mayweather. ??
     
  14. Flea Man

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    As promised

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8IzyPCVL0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
  15. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My revised/edited version:


    30. Azumah Nelson
    29. Khaosai Galaxy
    28. Wilfred Bentiez
    27. Wilfredo Gomez
    26. Ricardo Lopez
    25. Wladamir Klitchko
    24. Felix Trinidad
    23. Mike McCallum
    22. James Toney
    21. Roberto Duran
    20. Eric Morales
    19. Marco Antonio Barrera
    18. Joe Calzage
    17. Juan Manuel Marquez
    16. Oscar De La Hoya
    15. Mike Tyson
    14. Aaron Pryor
    13. Evander Holyfield
    12. Larry Holmes
    11. Michael Spinks
    10. Lennox Lewis
    9. Roy Jones Jr.
    8. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Tommy Hearns
    6. Marvin Hagler
    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    4. Manny Pacquaio
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Julio Caesar Chavez
    1. Sugar Ray Leonard


    Honourable mentions to Kalambay, Sanchez, Eubank Benn Collins, Wright, Corrales, Vitali Klitchko, Cotto, Mosley, Pedrosa etc. (as well as a few others I am undoubtedly missing) who would at the moment make it into the 30-40 places.


    Still a work in progress. I've moved Whitaker up to 3 but still evaluating him and he may yet go to number 2. Roy Jones makes the top 10 leaping ahead of Lewis and Holmes, whom I put down a few places. Michael Spinks get elevated on re-evaluation. Nelson and Galaxy come in, but still unsure of where to put them as I haven't studied them fully yet, so they could move up in future. Still can't find a place for Sanchez. I did some other minor rearranging e.g. McCallum moving up a place or 2. Pryor might still be a little high and will need a look at, other than that I think I'm quite happy with it.