How would Jack Johnson fare vs. his predecessors in the following matches?

I think he beats Demspey definitely. I slightly favour him over Tunney but I wouldn't be confident.

Louis and Rocky would both beat him on points.

 

Dempsey and Tunney - Johnson on points.

Marciano - Marciano on points.

Louis - Louis by late round stoppage.

 

I like him to beat all four by decision. Tunney would be stylistically tough.

Louis is problematical in how he deals with his excellent jab , but come forward bangers such as Dempsey ,and Marciano did not fare well against Johnson.

 

This is what attracted me originally ,since he beat past prime versions of two of his predecessors.:huh

 

Is anyone else getting high on Tunney lately? it seems he's rising through my rankings on a daily basis and I can't really explain it

 

I think he looks excellent on film ,the problem with "The Marine" is the lack of depth at heavyweight on his resume.

 

yeah it's pretty much just: Dempsey, Greb, Gibbons, Risko, Weinert.

I wish he'd have fought Wills and Sharkey so we could have had a better gauge of his abilities with the bigger men. But I agree on film he looks amazing, seems he can do it all.

 

Jack Johnson is the fighter you root against, because you cannot stand his style. But he's also the fighter that you don't bet against, because he gives everyone big troubles. These guys with pretty styles who may look tremendous against most everyone else, well, they get in there with Johnson, and suddenly it is an entirely different ball game, and everyone is wondering why they can't get off or land anything, and they are getting gradually picked apart, pecked, poked, and surprisingly jolted in a semi-dull fight. Just think B-Hop with even more strength and power.

 

Johnson was way ahead of his time,fistically.

 

Predecessors

Marciano would gladly outwork him while Johnson grabs him and throws the occasional chopping right hand. He'd slow Marciano down but this fight is going to be Marciano smother Johnson agains the ropes trying to hurt him while Johnson hugs him. Marciano 15 round decision

Dempsey to either bang Johnson out or get dragged into Johnson's game and lose on points. I'll go for the latter with some shaky moments for Johnson.

Louis would waste Johnson.

Tunney quicker, and he'll stay at his range. Johnson will find it pretty hard to get off I imagine. He'll have chance to work his way in but Tunney times his right hand down the middle and comes forward, but Tunney would reset if it got too hairy and has the chin to take the blows Johnson does sneak in. Tunney on points.

Adam Pollack puts it brilliantly though. I'm basing this on him looking horrid and whilst given him props for effectiveness it's the factt that when push comes to shove over the 12/15 round distance I think the fighters that came after Johnson had a more judge friendly style. Fight to the finish and let Johnson stink it out as much as he wants and I'd probably favour him against more of the very best.

 

I see him beating Dempsey pretty comfortably once he gets past the fist 2 rounds.. which he would.

Tunney.. is a good stylistic fight and I think it would be a close fight... but Jack would get it done.

I've always believe Jack would beat Joe.. he hit hard enough to put Joe down.. and would do so.. and smart enough to not get hit with Joe's combos and savy enough to clinch when needed and do some of his good inside work. Good fight but Jack takes it.

I would give the best odds to Rocky... I just see him more active than all the others and thus I think he takes it on points. If there was a recipe to beat johnson it was REALLY acitve fghters. That is Rocky more so than all the others.

 

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