Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    What's your top 5 for:

    I. His greatest performances
    II. His most historically important fights
    (Overlap permitted as you see fit, of course).

    I'm curious what some of your lists would look like?
     
  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez, Sr. is probably the best ATG at 140 pounds due to his ability to remain there and to also be comfortable for a solid 7 yrs between 1989 thru 1996... He also came back there later on after 147 failed for him........... Aaron Pryor is his main runner-up at 140..........

    His title win over Roger Mayweather in '89 and his come-back on points to halt Mel Taylor in '90 are his best accomplishments at 140 pounds..... Oh, of course his '92 beatdown of Camacho is also important to note...... Plus, he smoked a capable, but frozen Greg Haugen down in '93 Mexico....... All good wins there......

    Chavez, Sr. is solid at 140 according to the history books......

    MR.BILL
     
  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plus, his '94 win over Tony Lopez and his '95 win over David Kamau are noteworthy at 140, too......

    MR.BILL

    Oh, don't space-off the '98 draw to Miguel Gonzalez, either...... Note that, as well........
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Cervantes is the no.2 140lber IMO, not Pryor.
     
  5. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Meldrick Taylor. Aside from all of the controversy it was a great fight, and he knew he needed a KO to win. Even if it would have went the other way I'd say the same thing. A lot of fighters even when down on the cards will take it easy in 12th round and let the time slip. In this fight JCC left everything he had in that ring to get that win. I do not want to make a list because I'm not a huge follower of JCC or early 90's era. But, to me that was a great fight and a very important one for Chavez. Meldrick doesn't seem to get a lot of love, and he never really had the chance to achieve ATG status IMO, he wasn't the same after that fight.
     
  6. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I list Chavez' fights at 140 cuz he peaked there............. But his KO's over Rosario and his lopsided win over Ramirez at 135 is also important to note.......

    MR.BILL
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cervantes, nor Benitez, will ever make my top-2 at 140................ Chavez and Pryor do based on their natural ability to peak there....

    MR.BILL:deal
     
  8. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Pryor beat his slow ass!:twisted:

    Pryor beats anybody's ass! :bbb
     
  9. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rosario for me / shocking domination.
     
  10. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Greatest Performances:

    1. Rosario
    2. Martinez
    3. Camacho
    4. Haugen
    5. Taylor 1 (more so in the later rounds. Incredible display of in-fighting)

    Historical fights:

    1. Meldrick Taylor 1 (Unified battle of the 2 best 140lbers at the time. Became the p4p king withthis victory).

    2. Hector Camacho (Grudge match against heated rival from arch rival country Puerto Rico, fight about 8 years in the making)

    3. Edwin Rosario (Another fight for Mexican pride as he took against another heated Rican rival, with the Lightweight crown at stake)

    4. Mario Martinez (first title fight)

    5. Greg Haugen (after all the trash talk of his people, what better place to take revenge than in the ultimate Mexican stage: Estadio Azteca)

    5 same fights for both, just in diffrent order. :-D
     
  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Best opponent in victory: Taylor or Lockridge.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I consider calling him "Sr." an insult to the sport. It gives credence to whomever might be called "Jr.".
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Performances.....

    Rosario
    Camacho
    Haugen
    Taylor 1
    Martinez/Mayweather 1


    Greatest historically.....

    Taylor 1 (A truly defining fight vs a young unbeaten, motivated, great fighter, fight of the decade + the way he turned it around = legendary)
    Camacho (2 greats of the era + Mexico vs Puerto Rico)
    Mayweather 2 (became 3 weight champ)
    Rosario (became 2 weight champ)
    Haugen (due to the pre-fight hype & Greg never having been stopped before)
     
  14. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Has anybody thought of this...If the Duran that fought Buchanon fought the Chavez that fought Rosario (or Castillo) it would have probably been the greatest fight of all time? Personally, without an opinion on the winner, I think it would have ended both of their careers.
     
  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Greatest performances:

    1. Rosario
    2. Martinez
    3. Lockridge (Chavez fights completely differently than normal, boxing and picking Lockridge apart with counters)
    4. Camacho
    5. Taylor I/Mayweather I/Haugen/Alli

    Most significant:

    1. Taylor I
    2. Rosario. A complete schooling and a masterclass on the art of inside fighting against a dangerous, prime fighter.
    3. Mayweather II. Chavez earns his 3rd weight title with a patient, unstoppable assaults on a far better prepared Mayweather.
    4. Camacho. Chavez beats his long time rival in a Mexico-Puerto Rico matchup, but Camacho had seen his best days go by and it was simply a drubbing.
    5. Haugen. A huge spectacle, mostly thanks to Haugen's trash talking.