Froch v Hopkins???

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  1. JFT96

    JFT96 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah, the old man argument doesn't wash with this one. Froch is not someone who would EVER be able to dictate the tempo of a fight with Hopkins, no matter how old he is. Bernard is still too sharp on the counter to punish Carl & once he would take the fight on the inside, he'd handicap Froch and easily be able to work away.

    You saw what Ward did to Froch & at the moment, he's on his way to becoming the next Hopkins. And don't say, it was Ward's youth & speed that won him that fight; it helped yes, but it was his ring intelligence that was key. And Hopkins has that in abundance.
     
  2. BoxingAnalyst

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    No, the old man argument does come into play in this one for me, Bernard has been on the slide for a while now, he's still got all the tricks but his workrate and speed are decreasing.

    It's nothing to do with Wards youth, Andre is just simply a much better fighter then Bernard at present.
     
  3. Lilo

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    Froch's fantastic engine would win it for him.

    People forget how shite Hopkins was against Jones (second fight).

    Pascal was absolutely tailor made for him. Hopkins won't realistically KO Froch, I reckon Frochy would try and go through him.
     
  4. JFT96

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    Sorry but that's just a load of rubbish. Workrate decreasing? Because it was so marvellous vs Calzaghe wasn't it? Yet he still came back then and beat Pavlik & Pascal (younger men) convincingly. You're just making generic statements that don't have a lot of substance to them when looking at a potential Froch-Hopkins fight.

    You've made two posts now on how Froch would win and as the "BoxingAnalyst" have remarkably failed to give any analysis on how you think Froch could go about it. All you fall back on is "Bernard's old". So, what about Glen Johnson then? He is way past his best, has little speed and actually stylistically is a lot better made for Froch yet he was able to get inside Carl and cause him problems. Explain that one to me gemmell and actually give some proper reasons as to how Froch can win
     
  5. JFT96

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    That's a load of generic crap too. Jones II? What relevance does that have to Froch-Hopkins? Their styles couldn't be any more different and it's not as though it was Hopkins' last fight, he's fought 3 times since and looked a lot better than that night.

    When has Froch ever walked through anyone at World level, Bute aside? And when has Hopkins ever been walked through? Disregarding the fact that Bute is nowhere near as tough as Hopkins, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that Froch could successfully 'go through' Hopkins. In fact, logic would indicate that if he did try, he'd be on the end of a clear beating. I'm not saying Hopkins would KO him but he'd make him look silly
     
  6. Toontoon

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    Froch on points, maybe even a late stoppage.
     
  7. TIGEREDGE

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    i doubt this will happen unless theres mega money involved
     
  8. REEVO

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    Hopkins was ****ed against Joe.C remember.. When things got tough for hopkins he claimed a low blow, got time to recover and managed to hang in there.. My estimation of hopkins went down that night massively. He ruined that fight and he would do the same to Froch and srtill lose to a decision..
     
  9. JFT96

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    No response from the analyst, disappointing :-(
     
  10. REEVO

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    No response from JFT96, Disappointing. :-(
     
  11. JFT96

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    To what? Your point which had nothing to do with what I was trying to say. I thought the sarcasm was obvious about the Calzaghe fight but I'll spell it out just for you.
     
  12. BoxingAnalyst

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    Your a wierdo, I stated Froch would outwork him, and I believe he'd do so from range, Froch has a fantastic engine..not much too Analyse.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

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    Froch is **** on the inside.

    He'd have his pockets picked.

    Hopkins just knows too much. Froch is probably better than him at this stage but Bernard's strengths play to Carl's weaknesses, and his weaknesses aren't really exposable (is that a word?) by Carl's strengths.

    His engine is obviously way better but his output isn't anything spectacular, and he'll be clinched a fair bit and have his workrate chopped even more.

    As good as Froch is, good inside fighters really aren't for him.
     
  14. wallworkjake123

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    People pointing out that Hopkins was tired against Calzaghe - True, but Calzaghe has a higher work rate than Froch and is an all round better fighter.
     
  15. JFT96

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    :lol::lol: weirdo, why? Because I asked you to back up your point? Ah well resorting to petty childish name calling just shows you obviously have nothing to your argument.

    If you think Froch beats Hopkins simply because of his 'engine', I guess you know little aboutboxing