Is Greg Jackson killing the sport?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Stoo, Aug 23, 2012.


  1. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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  2. Kittikasem

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    No. I don't like Jackson because I detest the 'gameplans' he has apparently devised for GSP, Guida, Condit, and more. But like Diego Sanchez says, it's really up to the fighter what he does in the cage. Guys like Bones, Sanchez and more Jackson fighters do perform like real fighters every time. I don't think Jackson is free from blame for all these shitty fights and calculating, pragmatic gameplans, but likewise I don't think he can be flogged for them either.
     
  3. Stoo

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    I tend to agree Pops. He should take a little flak for turning exciting fighters a little boring in big fights (GSP's title defences, Condit v Diaz, Guida v Grey/Pettis). But ultimately it takes two to tango (no pun intended Clay)
     
  4. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I once heard a NASCAR driver say that it "takes two to tangle." :lol: That is a true story.
     
  5. Stoo

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    :lol:

    Got an image of Jackson with his health and safety clipboard on the start line now...
     
  6. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Seriously, Jackson is not killing the sport. Plenty of his fighters have excellent finishing records.

    Jackson's fighters often use a carefully formulated strategy, and that does not always lead to excitement.

    I think the game plan for Guida, when he faced Maynard, was solid going in. Maynard has a questionably gas tank, and I think they wanted Clay to take over in round 3. Maynard did not come out full speed ahead, and try to take Guida down. That is when they should have told Guida to throw more strikes. If you watch a few of Maynard's fights, you know Maynard normally fights a bit differently than he did that night. The failure from Guida's side came when they failed to adjust to Maynard's approach.
     
  7. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** no. Zuffa brought this **** on themselves. If anything, this bull**** Fox deal is killing MMA. It's been ****ed up since they made initial decision to only air the Cain/Junior fight on the inaugural UFC of Fox card, but Dana and Lorenzo will never admit that they're wrong about. Zuffa has over-saturated the market and they've over stretched their talent to put on all of these watered down cards. The original card was **** outside of the Henderson fight.

    Additionally, it wasn't "eight days notice" like Dana keeps saying. It was two or three. Fighters don't train that much during the last week before the event. They also have to travel and do all of the fight week media. What kind of "legitimate sport" pulls that **** on a world champion? They should have cancelled the card the second that they heard Henderson was out.


    I guarantee you that this won't be the last time that something like this happens over the next couple of years with all of the bull**** subpar cards that Zuffa has scheduled.
     
  8. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think he knows what veracity means.
     
  9. Stoo

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    Common theme over the last 12 months or so, it's hard to disagree. Personally Ive skipped about 5 cards this year already, when before that I doubt Id skipped that many going back to 06
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Ahh not just me then....
     
  11. Lynchburg

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    There are far too many shite cards now... it's like when you only have a little bit of butter left and you try to spread it across two pieces of bread. It all ends up shite :verysad

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  12. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Greg Jackson is not and never will be in a position to " kill the sport "

    I feel Dana's comments (barring this statement) are probably just from his POV , but Jackson and his team look at strategy before anything else , there strategical approach is what they believe sets them apart from the other gyms , and one would have to concur

    The UFC have a philosophy but so does team Jackson , the two don't merge , so there's going to be conflict
     
  13. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Still eating bread and butter hey Lynch ?? :nono

    :lol:
     
  14. Stoo

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    Im sure you remember back to when WWE bought WCW and the wrestling audience slowly dropped off... I stopped watching a good while before that but I remember friends saying that it was good to just have one company and the audience will grow because all the talent is under on roof
     
  15. Stoo

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    Common sense point of view fella and I agree. But those game plans dont exactly sell tickets do they. The only reason Dana is overreacting is because it hit him in the wallet hard though :lol: