Arthur Abraham Vs Lucian Bute

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tyler-Durden, Aug 26, 2012.

  1. Dr. Larry

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    Let's see Bute's next perfomance before we judge :)
     
  2. bamboleo

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    Yeah got my Nostradamus prediction wrong... this is for the rematch.

    Me and 80% of the ppl on this forum. :hey
     
  3. Tyler-Durden

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    You worse than the others. :hat
     
  4. turbotime

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    We'll see. Abe won't dare even think about Froch again or any elite guys, rather fight the C class Stieglitzes in Germany :lol:
     
  5. Tyler-Durden

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    Where do you want him to fight Stieglitz when they're both German ? :think

    Bute's has fought ONCE abroad in his whole carreer and you're already acting like he's the king of travelling.

    By the way, do you put Bute in those elite guys ? :think
     
  6. ollyc

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    Abraham is German, but Bute is Canadian? Come of it.

    Abraham is an Armenian with German citizenship, and Bute is a Romanian with Canadian citizenship. Both fight predominantly in their adopted homelands.
     
  7. techks

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    It's funny what a loss against a guy that dominated em both does to the opinions of prisoners of the moment. Class below Dirrell? Its not truly clear who is the better but with Dirrell's lack of activity and slight decline in speed I have to go with Bute. That said yes styles make fights but Bute was frightened against Froch which he couldn't be against AA. I would have to just see the fight to gauge how good Bute is and if he'll come in intimidated like he was against Froch(who would've beaten him anyways but 1 loss doesn't indicate Bute would never have a chance against Froch BTW humiliating loss or not).

    It all depends on what Bute's mindset would be when fighting Abraham. He more than has the skills to beat him but for sure Abraham would come to fight. Not sure if he still cries about fake lowblows but that's not the point. Point is we shouldn't overlook Bute because his loss as Froch is one of the best SMW's and don't forget that AA got dominated by him too. Would see an AA/Froch fight and I get sick of people overrating Dirrell because of his skill and ignoring his lack of quality wins as a "top SMW" not saying he can't be one. I also think that people forget that AA isn't the beast he was at MW for one he lacks size at SMW and 2 he's facing better compo which he's lost to all of the best instead of just 1 guy.
     
  8. Tyler-Durden

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    He was talking about Abraham-Stieglitz.
     
  9. turbotime

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    I would put Bute around B class, a level below Ward/Froch. Abraham and Stieglitz would be the C level guys. Abraham is not cut out for Super Middle but he lets himself blow up so much between fights :-(
     
  10. ollyc

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    Turbotime wasn't particularly criticising Abraham for fighting Stieglitz in Germany - he postulated that Abraham wouldn't be fighting elite competition abroad.

    You then replied by stating that Abraham was 'German' whilst criticising Bute for fighting 'once abroad in his whole career'.

    As stated before you can't have it both ways. Their respective situations are very similar - both fight abroad regularly, albeit in adopted hometowns.
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

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    I would have to say wide decision for Bute (but would hope for an AA KO while the fight was going on).
     
  12. Tyler-Durden

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    How many elite guys has Bute fought ?

    How many elite guys has AA fought ?

    Come back to see us when Bute steps it up again and gets his ass handed to him again. He'll be classed in the T level, as in Taxi drivers.
     
  13. Tyler-Durden

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    What the **** are you talking about dude ? You came in the middle of the conversation and start playing the referee. I don't need someone to tell me what he said or what he criticized as my reading skills ain't that bad.
     
  14. Dr. Larry

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    Realistic people know that this would be a very exciting fight :)
     
  15. Tyler-Durden

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    No it would be "easy work" because Lucian is such a dominant fighter and he has faced such a good competition so far. :p