If you were Floyd Mayweather, would you give Pac the 50/50?

This is why we haven't seen this fight. Because of people that think this way. People have to understand that these guys' egos (Bob, Manny, Floyd, GBP, etc) will not budge to who should earn more. That's why I say that the fairest thing I could think of that both can maybe agree is to a 60-40 split and 70-30 if by KO. I can't think of another way for a good agreement to satisfy all parties. I am speaking as a fan of boxing not as a fan of a particular fighter.

This is the battle of the egos. I think maybe YDKSAB. Atleast how it works today.

 

Of course not.

If I bring in more money and my PPV sales are better, why should I? Pacquiao's coming off of two straight losses, his popularity appears to be declining and the discrepancy in the PPV numbers have gotten wider over the last few years. No one in Mayweather's position would take a 50/50 deal.

 

Their bargaining power here is 50/50. It will take 2 signatures to make this fight happen.

 

It doesn't satisfy all parties though.

Your way is mos def "the wrong way."

Lara Williams

Nuff said.

 

I've probably explained this to your previous alts, so no need to waste many words:

1. per Dan Rafael, Pac has made over 25m for JMM and Mosley, at least
2. After Arum's cut, Floyd's offer comes out to about 29m

There's bad offers, where you're hoping the other guy is dumb or desperate to accept. Then there's offers meant to be rejected. Pac is not the brightest bulb, but not even he'd dumb enough to take a 15% bump for the biggest bout in boxing.

 

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So let me get this straight, No one in Mayweather's position would take 50million PLUS for one fight which he will not only most likely win, but also help please fans, cement his legacy and set PPV records (something he seems to value) because of arguing over (relative) pennies?

What a stubborn/greedy lot we have here haha.

 

It isn't a "fact," at all...it's your opinion. Again, this has 0 to do with the money split. Legacy and all that does not come into play when negotiating the money...maybe to "you" it makes a difference, but to the people at the table it makes 0.

You can speculate all you want. Floyd can go make more money fighting elsewhere than Manny can as Manny has now lost officially (or unofficially to Marquez). At 50/50, he only makes 7.5 million more than he made for Cotto while Manny would make 27.5 million more than he did for Marquez 3 and Cotto which are his high paydays. So again, that is not a fair deal at all. Floyd get's raped in negotiations if he takes 50/50.

As for the casual fan etc etc...you had the same thing with the Oscar-Mayweather fight...it did 2.4 million and they split 79 million. 33,300,000 in guarantee's and another 46,700,000 off of ppv profits. Your numbers make 0 sense.

At 2.4 million buys Floyd and Oscar split 79 million.

So we can assume

at 3.0 million buys Floyd and Manny split 105 million. 40 million to Manny and 65 million to Floyd...15 million more than Manny's highest payday and 20 million more than Floyd's highest payday and it's a fair deal.

50/50 would be 52.5 million to each fighter and that would be more than double Manny's highest payday and only 7.5 million more than Floyd highest payday thus it isn't a fair deal.

Also, how many PPV buys do you think your gonna have here? It isn't going to be much more than what Oscar and Floyd did...So again, for the 4th time the 40 million dollar offer was legit and fair. Manny can't make money in that 40 million dollar range without Floyd. Floyd can go make 52.5 million TYPE numbers fighting other guys.

It makes perfect sense. Hold out and force Manny to take what your offering. As Floyd is in the driver seat and is pretty much the De La Hoya these days, he can demand what he wants or offer 0 fight if Manny don't take it. Just so happens that what Floyd offered Manny was fair and consistent and was a career high for Manny. Manny chose to go fight Bradley for a $6 million guarantee.

I agree to dissagree, I just feel I have more to back up what I'm saying than you have. :good

 

What do you think all parties can agree to that is better than my proposition? Keep in mind these all these guys think they're larger than life and have ego's the size of the universe. I just want to stop all this mess of whos should earn more and what not, and make the damn fight already.

 

the legacy and all that you talking has nothing to do with anything.

Floyd can go fight other fighters for $45 million and not make $52.5 million.

Manny lost and can go make 22.5 million fighting other fighters and not make $40 million.

Floyd still makes "in the range" of what a 50/50 would bring while Manny does not make anything "in the range" of $40 million.

 

If I was Mayweather, health would come first.

 

Your proposition is horrible. I'm not talking ****...60/40 to the winner...so Manny would be guarantee'd a career high if he lost, while Floyd takes a paycut from his last 4 fights if he loses.:huh

Manny is guarantee'd double his career high while Floyd's guarantee would be a paycut....

It isn't about ego...Manny could have taken his 40 million and made the fight for May..he chose to go make 6 million fighting Bradley and ended up with 22.5.

Floyd has done everything logical to make the Manny fight but Manny's people keep him away for various reasons.

60/40 to the winner is horrible...Floyd would get raped at the negotiation table if he accepted an offer like this.

 

It's called prize fighting, not legacy fighting. Despite what some of you might want to believe, boxers don't really fight for legacy.

He might make 50 million for this one fight, but I think Mayweather got 45 million for Cotto. Why would he accept what only amounts to 5 million dollars more against an opponent that will help bring in much more money? Pacquiao on the other hand would see a 25 million dollar increase in his purse. How do you think it's fair that the bigger named fighter in Mayweather only gets 5 million dollars more, but the smaller named fighter in Pacquiao gets 25 million more? What makes it even worse is that Manny's popularity appears to be declining. No one in Mayweather's position would accept that deal.

 

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Manny just lost his last two fights which did so bad they wont release the official numbers

 

So if Floyd wanted Pacquaio to jump of a cliff would it be Pacquaio's fault for not doing it?

Ok lets agree to disagree. You have past numbers to back up what you are saying but are neglecting the fact that if the fight doesn't happen Floyd makes 0 (he can't make as much fighting others.) Plus, surely it comes to the stage, he has so much money, why not make the fight over a few million? Anyway we are rambling. Thanks for the debate, I'll admit I could see where you were coming from.

Finally just to clear up - My numbers we made up and simplified for illustration purposes, to show how I don't think Mayweather makes that much more than Pacquaio as some are making out and some are forgetting the casual fans. Also when I said 'fact' you are right in that it is my opinion not fact, even if I know for a fact that my opinon is true