Josesito struggling to keep weight.

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  1. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can tell you right now that fight is not going to happen
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    because there's more to life and boxing than money. He can actually beat Garcia. he's got no shot in hell at beating Canelo
     
  3. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you know he has not shot at beating Canelo? How much of a shot did you give him beating Ortiz? .The Garcia fight would still be there even if he lost to Ortiz theoretically. Fight wont happen because of Al Haymon though
     
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    He beat Ortiz and deserves major credit for it, but Ortiz was winning the fight until he quit. Plus he came into the fight weighing 144 pounds. Now he's going to go up to 154 and fight a big guy in Canelo Alverez?
    I'll say anything is possible in boxing, but Garcia is a more winnable fight for him and he'd get the lineal title and could defend it in his natural weight class
     
  5. thawk888

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    Canelo is going to break this man.
     
  6. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz was winning the fight but Lopez won by breaking the guys jaw. Boxing for fighter is about making money. Even if he lost to Canelo he could still get a Garcia fight is thats what Al wanted to do
     
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    He shouldnt come in any higher than that in fact have him weigh in with some heavy clothes on have him come in at welter
     
  8. the_truth

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    It's funny how some are saying Josesito struggling to keep weight is no big deal:patsch We are talking about a dude not to long ago was at 140 and was getting hit by big shots by Ortiz at 147. Imagine what Canelo is going to be weighing in on fight night and how Josesito is going to perform and feel in a weight class he hasnt been in.
     
  9. FNF Main Event

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    Lopez isn't even big enough for WW, he struggled in the Ortiz fight to even weigh the 144 he did
     
  10. SHADOW BOX

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    I guess money is more important than the integrity of the sport. Boxing is more business now and less sport.
     
  11. Kid Cubano

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    amen:deal
     
  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    I really liked Lopez performance against Ortiz but I fear Canelo will be way too much for him...

    Might toy with him like a cat with a mouse.
     
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    Thanks for keeping up with canelo related issues bro, I always get updates from you of all people keep that hater train rolling bro let's see what it does for you in the long run mixing in that hater agenda. Be happy that your boy got a huge shot to make it big with vanes let's hope he doesn't **** up a chance again.
     
  14. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope Josesito doesn't get seriously hurt here. Fighting a guy that much bigger is dangerous.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    So?

    If coming in lighter improves his chances at winning (by not sacrificing speed for bulk, for instance - look at how adversely bulking up affected Marquez against Mayweather, not that he'd have stood a chance anyway...) then wtf is wrong with him doing that?

    Now, if he somehow stipulated in the negotiations that Alvarez come in an ounce below 154 - that would be wrong. That would be everything that's wrong with this catchweight bull****. As it is, of course, he doesn't have that sort of pull and couldn't make such demands of Alvarez if he wanted to (and I doubt he would - Josesito seems the type who wants to win fair & square).

    It's the "154lb and under belt". He can dip below 150, or below the WW limit, or even the LWW limit if he so chooses. He can weigh in 153, or 135. It's his prerogative.

    Of course weight classes exist for a reason to protect smaller fighters from being disadvantaged, within reason. So your response to someone else earlier, "What's next, Archie Solis vs. Canelo?? :roll:" is of course ridiculous. That's too much. However, it isn't unreasonable or unheard of in boxing for someone to overcome a deficit of several pounds (even around 10). In this case, it could be that staying slim & fast actually benefits the smaller fighter whereas having him bulk up and slow down would unfairly handicap in favor of the already bigger and stronger man.

    You're missing the point of weight classes entirely if you think Josesito would be in the wrong to come in lighter than 150 or even 147 for a LMW title bout.


    Let me spin your ridiculous logic around - would you consider Canelo vs. Archie a fair fight and perfectly OK if Solis started chugging protein and bloated up into a jacked midget with a 42lb gain? That's basically what you're saying, that if you're vying for a title in a given division you need to be as close as possible to the weight limit in that division, and above the limit of the next one down. (let alone that weight limits exist as a maximum cutoff, and aren't intended to work backwards to keep the combatants penned into a specific range)