The Marquez that fought Pac vs Mayweather at 147...

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  1. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest. the marquez that fought mayweather was the worst we've ever seen. He jumped two weight divisions and did not have a conditioning to help him. He gained weight by ****ing throwing rocks and drinking his urine. He was so out of shape and it showed. In the pac fight he looked like a full pledged WW and kept his speed and power. And that was because of his conditioning coach Heredia.

    Secondly everyone here agrees that two or one lbs makes a whole lot of difference. mayweather cheating the scales showed me that he was not confident in beating marquez in an even playing field. Or else why would he cheat? I mean he is a small WW and could have easily weighed 144 but why did he not honor the contract?

    I thinkg if they rematch at 147 with marquez having a conditioning coach and mayweather not cheating the scales it would be different outcome or atleast a very close fight. I would love to see it again as I don't think that was the best Marquez that we saw fought mayweather,
     
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  2. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bump.............
     
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  3. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when Marquez fought May, May took him out of his gameplan. May made Marquez the aggressor, and made him look like a fool.
     
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  4. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    What the **** did Mayweather fight some other dude

    Mayweather made him look different
     
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  5. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think that 2 ****IN pounds didn't make a difference? come on if it didn't then floyd would have honored the contract. And him not having a conditioning coach going up two divisions hurt him bad.
     
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  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh no he didn't... Missing weight and catchweight fights, dragging fighters way out of comfort zone don't apply to Floyd..

    OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!
     
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  7. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    2 pounds and no conditioning coach. Marquez was throwing rocks to gain muscle. :lol::lol:
     
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  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Does better but still loses. Even though he put on the weight much better against Manny and retained his speed and movement, it's still added weight onto a frame that's smaller than those of most 135-pounders held by a man 39 years old who counters better than he leads. If Marquez is ever to close the distance and bait & counter in the pocket or mid-range with any success against someone as athletically gifted and stylistically challenging for JMM as Floyd is, it's going to be in a younger, quicker body.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuZvo6IF528[/ame]

    The fact most fighters have won more rounds against Floyd and that arguably none of them were as skilled as Marquez suggest it was more than simply a gap in boxistic ability which differentiated them that night.
     
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  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Mayweather would have UD'd him the same way he did back in '09. A "conditioning coach" isn't going to make Marquez a better boxer than Mayweather.
     
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  10. bronx

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    No excuses hard work dedication
     
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  11. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    oh the one that was 2 years older?
     
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  12. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    Exactly
     
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  13. Chex31

    Chex31 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    still 12-0
     
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  14. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lol
     
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  15. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Floyd played with Jmm like he was a school kid
     
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