Can somebody explain to me how Chavez and not Martinez is the WBC champ??

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  1. TheGoldenBoy#1

    TheGoldenBoy#1 Member Full Member

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    Obviously I know Jose Sualimen did his usual alphabet b.s. to get the belt to JCC
    But I thought they made Martinez the "Diamond" champ (ala wba superchamp?) and made JCC the WBC "regular" champ? I'm obviously mistaken.

    So can somebody please briefly put down step by step how Martinez won the WBC trinket from Pavlik and is ubeaten since but isn't the WBC champ anymore? I don't remember him missing a mandatory.

    Keep in mind WBC belt means nothing to me, I'm just curious as to what was the "official" procedure.

    Much obliged.
     
  2. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    Zbik was Martinez' mandatory.
    HBO would not put on the fight.
    Martinez decided to take on an opponent HBO would approve.
    Martinez therefore lost his title.
    Zbik vs Chavez JR was approved for HBO.
    Chavez JR wins the vacant WBC title.

    It's not fair, but that is what happened.

    I'm also not aware what importance the WBC diamond belt is, I think it's just an excuse for fees and a over glorified #1 contender status.
     
  3. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Martinez was suppose to defend against zbik his mandatory..hbo turned it down martinez got stripped

    then hbo approves zbik for chavez and the wbc puts the belt up for grabs


    they bascially just took the belt and gave it to chavez
     
  4. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    and diamond champ is a meaningless trophy
     
  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    The Cartel. /end thread.
     
  6. vancitycobra

    vancitycobra Member Full Member

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    yeah everyone knows the Technetium Champ Belt is the one that matters
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One addition: Chavez Jr. actually became Martinez' mandatory (don't ask me how) and even said he would not turn a Maravilla fight down, who of course said he'd love the match-up. But Arum/Sulaiman thought Jr. isn't ready yet, so they just removed Martinez and handed Chavez his belt. Zbik, interim champ for 3 years under Pavlik, just came handy, can't say if HBO was involved in the scam.

    Get it? He's not ready for Martinez so let's get him the belt without Martinez. Insane.
     
  8. SHADOW BOX

    SHADOW BOX SHADOW BOX Full Member

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    How did Canelo become champ?
     
  9. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    I think he got it by fighting Matthew Hatton.
     
  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Sure can! The WBC's Twiiter account just explained it to me...They said because Sergio fought for the WBC Diamond Belt, he cannot keep two titles at the same time. The way they explained it is they said they don't let anyone hold 2 titles at once because it freezes up the division.

    I told them I didn't believe that BS and that if Chavez were in that position, and exception would be made.

    To which they replied, (Jgullion77 is me btw)

    World Boxing Council ‏@WBCBoxing @DStyleBoxing @jgullion77

    To which I replied back,


    Jeremy Gullion ‏@jgullion77
    @WBCBoxing @DStyleBoxing

    and



    Jeremy Gullion ‏@jgullion77
    @WBCBoxing @DStyleBoxing

    That was almost 2 hours ago, still waiting for a in-depth explanation.
     
  11. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    After Martinez got stripped of the WBC at 154..somehow manny and margo fought for it at 150...then manny moved back down and some how Canelo and Hatton fought for the vacant belt at yet another catchweight of 150...(that canelo did not even make)


    So basically Martinez made alot of people champions by winning
     
  12. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    why did martinez hold a press conference to say he's no longer repping the wbc and will only defend the ring belt....

    then...he never went on to fight pirog, or sturm...instead took on the euro/brit bum tour......
     
  14. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Chavez is Mexican.
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    i'll wait