Ward is better, more complete. Dan's right. Joe would just stay in Europe fighting bums. We can say that with some certainty, because that actually was his MO.
And you know the real truth don't you, 19-post alt. **** off. The "big names" all hid out in different weight classes and made excuses (he's not a big name, there's not enough money being offered, quack quack quack). I wouldn't read that rag if you paid me.
holy ****!! yes, you can like calzaghe all you want but you post here is comical. in boxing terms, joe was the ultimate coward. those of us that were around and followed his career understand this. nothing is more overrated than an undefeated pro boxing record. you get to pick who and fight and when you fight them. joe was a good fighter but his career was manufactured to make his fans think he was great by keeping his "undefeated" record. joe would have never stepped in the ring with ward. he didn't even fight ottke.
Frank W*rren must love people like you. I bet you'll be forking out for Nathan "The man every body is avoiding" Cleverly's next WBO super fight
Go cry somewhere else. If Calzaghe hadn't pissed his career away fighting bums he wouldn't be criticized.
Oh, that's all he needed? Piece of cake. Only after Lacy made the big mistake of thinking Calzaghe would be easy pickings did the US networks take any notice, and only then did he get any access to the "big names". Before that he had to take what he could get. It's been a lot easier for Ward, with his own vanity project tournament set up for him by the TV company, to be held in his back yard, and run by their pet officials. The other Andre was obviously meant to be the other finalist, all he had to do was not suck too bad, but he ****ed that up for himself. If Sky set up a similar tournament back in the day, wherein all Calzaghe's fights took place in Wales, my guess is that Joe would have looked equally good.
You say you are one of those that "understand"' what was going on back then, and then imply that it was CALZAGHE who ducked OTTKE. Self-ownage in one post, impressive. Fixed that for you.
deal Calzaghe would never have fought Ward but if he did Ward wins in one of the ugliest fights in history, wrestling and slapping.....damn that fight would suck.
No one will fork out for a Clev fight, he fights on boxnation, and your either a mug or poor if your a British boxing fan and don't have it.
Thread chock-full of the usual stinking lowly minions bitching over fantasy fights in fantasy land.:|:|:dead:dead:barf:barf:barf
No lets look at the facts WARD Does not pad his record Ward Also fights people in their prime ! That's why people are making these statements not just because he's American !
who are the so called prime fighters andre ward fights?....... carl froch was 35 when ward fought him froch got his 0 and his belt took by mikkel kessler The biggest name ward fought was a aging mikkel kessler The hardest fight ward had was a aging sakio bika it was "a life-and-death struggle". After the fight ward's mum said that bika made her baby's face all red Andre ward's best wins are kessler and bika 2 guys that got whooped by a 35yr old man:deal name 1 prime fighter andre ward fought that was in their 20's?......:think