Why Alvarez will NEVER be great

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Godhead, Sep 16, 2012.


Page 3 of 3
  1. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

    17,775
    1,631
    Jul 13, 2012
    Its a bit wierd that he outweighed canelo by 1lb on fight night. If canelo outweighed him by alot i wouldet give him
    Any cred but i feel he has earnt it
     
    Barrera, Sep 16, 2012
    Barrera, Sep 16, 2012
    #31
  2. Elite

    Elite Guest

    Early 20's and people are hating on him. :lol: Were gonna be seeing him for a very long time 15 years at best when he hits his mid 30's.:bbb
     
    Elite, Sep 16, 2012
    Elite, Sep 16, 2012
    #32
  3. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

    9,120
    4
    Jun 22, 2009
    I'm not convinced by that. I feel he should be pushed harder given how many fights he's had up to now. I believe he can be great, and probably will, but I don't think it would be wise to assume he'll still be elite level when he hits his thirties. Often fighters who start earlier fade earlier too
     
    Squire, Sep 16, 2012
    Squire, Sep 16, 2012
    #33
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

    51,097
    40,924
    Apr 17, 2011
    Canelo will be similar to Marquez (not saying they are on the same lever or w/e). Marquez is a great offensive fighter who takes punches himself and thereby creates excitement. Canelo throws beautiful, fast and well placed combinations with power but he takes punches in return. The moment a legit 154 pounder with power gets to him it will be a fun spectacle.
     
    Badbot, Sep 17, 2012
    Badbot, Sep 17, 2012
    #34
  5. trakam

    trakam Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,981
    1
    Oct 8, 2010
    Great Power but no flair. Need to see how he handles a quick 'boxer' who knows how to use the ring.....and isn't 40yrs old
     
    trakam, Sep 17, 2012
    trakam, Sep 17, 2012
    #35
  6. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

    1,798
    2
    Nov 3, 2011
    He is currently taking care of the 140-147lbs and I hear he will jump into 135lbs terriotry for his Dec fight....may be even challenge the Women's Champion at 127? Who knows after that....wait until Cotto is 42....?

    Cant wait for him to be exposed!

    Chavez down, Canelo waiting to go!
     
    Da Boxer, Sep 17, 2012
    Da Boxer, Sep 17, 2012
    #36
  7. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

    1,798
    2
    Nov 3, 2011
    What you talking about? A 140 pounder running around with 13 extra pounds of FAT? lol! You kidding....you saying that Josesito was a "legit" 54? GTFO!
     
    Da Boxer, Sep 17, 2012
    Da Boxer, Sep 17, 2012
    #37
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

    19,247
    22
    Dec 12, 2009

    To be fair, he was looking for Cotto in December, but Miguel chose Trout instead.

    Just sayin', 'mano.
     
    Zopilote, Sep 17, 2012
    Zopilote, Sep 17, 2012
    #38
  9. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

    3,858
    0
    Feb 28, 2012
    Only time will tell. Hopefully he steps up the competition.
     
    kwilson71, Sep 17, 2012
    kwilson71, Sep 17, 2012
    #39
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,688
    29,261
    Jul 26, 2004
    I hear you man, I do. But to Canelos credit, they offered the fight to Kirkland, one of the most ferocious guys in the division and the guy who Canelo should be fighting above everyone. Either A) Kirklands shoulder was still messed up or B) They turned it down because of the money. Depends what reports one believes. Either way, Kirkland was offered the fight.

    And the rest of the division is somewhat in limbo right now outside of a handful.

    Top 10 guys
    - Mayweather : not fighting
    - Cotto : Is fighting Trout, hopefully Canelo fights the winner
    - Molina : Just lost to Kirkland, hardly should get a title shot
    - Kirkland : Is injured
    - Angulo : Coming off a loss
    - Trout : Fighting Cotto
    - Lara : Scheduled to fight Vanes
    - Vanes : Scheduled to fight Lara


    That is practically the who's who at 154.... and while im not trying to make excuses for Canelo, as I agree his opposition leaves much to be desired, its not exactly like at this very moment hes swimming in a sea of opportunity that he can just call an opponent up right now and make a fight. Most of them are either not fighting, coming off a loss or tied up with existing fights on the way.

    In fact I think the only guy around the top 10 thats available to make a fight with right now would be K9, which could very well be his next fight.
     
    kirk, Sep 17, 2012
    kirk, Sep 17, 2012
    #40
  11. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

    958
    0
    Aug 20, 2012
    And mexican greats never take any punches :lol:
     
    Bane, Sep 17, 2012
    Bane, Sep 17, 2012
    #41
  12. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

    9,988
    4
    Jul 9, 2010
    i know Mosley was old, but he would have been landing those big rights and exposing his chin if he had poor defense.

    He gets hit, but he protects the chin so he's not getting wobbled.

    Alvarez is a massive future star. I'd favour him over every other 154 except Martinez right now.

    Alvarez vs Cotto is the fight to be made. What an amazing clash of styles.
     
    JohnAnthony, Sep 17, 2012
    JohnAnthony, Sep 17, 2012
    #42
Page 3 of 3