Sérgio Martinez vs Rocky Graziano

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  1. Smashgar

    Smashgar McMustache Nuthugger Full Member

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    So WTF does one early-career loss to a future champion mean? ****ing stupid ****.
     
    Smashgar, Sep 17, 2012
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  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Not true at all IMO. Calzaghe didn't stop Lacy. Frazier didn't stop Ali. Marcel didn't stop Shibata. The list goes on, and on, and on.
     
    Flea Man, Sep 17, 2012
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  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    He was hurt and knocked down against Richard Williams.
     
    Lester1583, Sep 17, 2012
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  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    He was hurt by a left cross in the 5th round (I THINK!) of the first fight against Paul Williams.

    He was dropped by Pavlik. Seemingly balance related but even Sergio admitted he was hurt.
     
    Flea Man, Sep 17, 2012
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  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Does everyone not think that finishing strongly in a championship bout is important?
     
    Flea Man, Sep 17, 2012
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  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Martinez by decision but if Graziano manages to land his right hand it could be lights out for Maravilla.
     
    bladerunner, Sep 17, 2012
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  7. Flea Man

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    How dare you? Martinez has never been hurt and you are clearly a hater of the modern era, Sir :deal :fire
     
    Flea Man, Sep 17, 2012
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  8. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think martinez will get graziano out of there more often than not, graziano is way smaller than chavez and will fight more aggressively

    i'll take prime zale to win at least 50/50 probably more

    yes, but if he came out for the 12th with those injuries(particularly the knee) i aint gonna hold it against him.
     
    kingfisher3, Sep 17, 2012
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  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    12 years ago, way before Martinez became the fighter he is today. Martinez ages like fine wine.
     
    SuzieQ49, Sep 17, 2012
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  10. Jacquot

    Jacquot Cruiserweight Paper Champ Full Member

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    I think Martinez KO's every Middleweight champion in a single round, even if they all fought him at the same time.
     
    Jacquot, Sep 17, 2012
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    "Sexiness" unfortunately does not compensate for not having a first class chin.
     
    red cobra, Sep 17, 2012
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Martinez would avenge his loss to Margarito..I don't hold that against him. He wasn't quite ready for ol' Cheato at that time.
     
    red cobra, Sep 17, 2012
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  13. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    I will but because I want to and Avena Lee wants me to. Not because you want me to. And I will think about Sergio's great performance while I do it.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Sep 17, 2012
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  14. Flea Man

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    Cool mayne :good
     
    Flea Man, Sep 17, 2012
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  15. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    I don't disagree that Barker is wank!

    However...

    compared to the opponents of the guys from the past

    who are supposed to be on a much higher level than Martinez...

    Barker is at least on par.

    I love discussing boxing, have for over 30 years... but the love for some of these guys from past eras (just because they are from a past era) gets out of hand some of the time.

    Lamotta, Cerdan, Zale, Graziano, and others. They all beat their share of bums and they all had losses to non-great fighters.

    Somebody brought up Martinez' loss to Margarito. That fight was over 12 years ago at WW. Margarito was awesome at that time (with or without loaded gloves) and Martinez would not peak until much later. Since that loss Martinez has looked awesome-

    He's gone 34-1-1 (21) overall and 7-0-1 (5) in World Title Fights at JMW and MW. The only loss was to Paul Williams (LMD12)... which was very close and could have went either way, he stopped Williams in the 2nd round of their rematch. The draw was to Kermit Cintron... this really should have been a win for Martinez, a KO win even.

    Lamotta would probably give Martinez the toughest fight out of the fighters I mentioned above but I think Martinez would beat them all.
     
    Hookie, Sep 17, 2012
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