how do you see cotto vs canelo playing out?

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo is further along career wise at 22 then Cotto was at 22.
     
  2. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i really cant judge how Canelo will handle a legit 154 lbs.
    Everything we know for sure is that Canelo has beaten-leaving no doubts-a much weaker competition,smaller and older boxers.Its not about hating Canelo.Is he good? hell yes! but by fighting Hatton,Gomez,mosley and josesito( none of them belong to 154) i cant tell how is he gonna handle the bests of the division.
     
  3. avenel

    avenel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good post kid cubano
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto beats Saul's ginger hair off of his head, why can't some of you see that?
     
  5. IsaL

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    Prime for Prime maybe, but Cotto is past his best. He doesn't put his punches together like he use too.

    FFS, he couldn't KO a one eyed Margarito. Mosley ****ed up a 100% Mosley worse, as did Pacquiao, but Cotto couldn't put him away without the help of the ref.

    I'm not going to say it would be a complete blow out, but Canelo has a really good chance, considering Cotto's whiskers have been cracked, and considering he has taken a whole lot of punishment and is at the twilight of his career.

    Alvarez is just reaching his absoloute prime, he has a tremendous punch and has KO Baldomir, and Cintron. On top of that he made Josesito look like a C level fighter, where Ortiz made him look like a A level fighter, and Ortiz and Canelo are pretty much the same size imo.
     
  6. IsaL

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    I got a feeling will see Cotto vs Alvarez either May or Sept. 2013.
     
  7. Fellonblackdays

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    Canelo I think may be able to beat Cotto these days and if he keeps coming forward to Canelo he's getting dropped.
     
  8. SJS19

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    Cotto is past peak, past prime is debatable, he's not slipping.

    A one eyed Margarito had a much better chin that current Alvarez, bank on that one mate.

    Alvarez is not just reaching his 'absoloute' prime that's bollox, he's a good 4 years from that. Wonderful, he KO'd two old welterweights.

    Jossesito is a 140lb fighter ffs :patsch He has a claim to fame, being that he beat a complacent and mentally weak Victor Ortiz. I guess Alvarez should fight Maidana next because he has exactly the same credentials.

    Cotto offers things that Alvarez has not seen before. A rythm, a jab, the ability to dictate the fight. Canelo is a big fish feasting on carp, Cotto aint no ****ing carp.
     
  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I'm hard on Canelo because I'm tired of people having a "hard-on" for him. Guy is special but we just don't know how his career will play out especially with no notable win on his record yet. Yes he doesn't have a Pacq or Floyd around his age to compete with but his options are good enough to last him for a couple of years with guys his weight and not blown up.

    I only criticize his record. As a person he seems nice and how he fights is smooth with exciting combos I just wanna see them against foes his size and top 10 in his division. I think he blows them away apart from Cotto and Lara but you never know with sports.

    I would just wait and see how Canelo does before pushing him as one of the "superstars of the future" which is Gamboa and Ward so far but I think he can get there. As fans we need to stop overrating guys with 0's and then saying they're garbage when they lose instead of giving the "upsetter" his credit. Case and point, Bute? He is still a good fighter and was beating guys top 10 in 168 but fought a better guy in Froch. His hype was bad but it happens. It's not who has less losses if that is the case, Ricardo Lopez better than Napoles?lol

    I think a fight with Cotto would be great for him but "he's not ready" crap needs to die. He's suppose to be a champ at 154 and therefore should be facing JMW fighters. I hope he does bring great fights in the future but don't write him off if he does face a good/great fighter and lose. Think about it, would he really be a "hypejob" for losing to Lara, Mayweather, and/or Martinez who are solid fighters? Then again, this is ESB so why should I expect different. Sigh......
     
  10. stittyb

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    A lot of people are saying Canelo is the fresher, Cotto is past it etc. But there's every chance that Canelo against Cotto would be the boy vs man scenario.

    I think it makes a great fight, Canelo can probably do all these things he's hyped to. But we don't know for sure, we know exactly what Cotto can do. On that premise I'm picking a Cotto stoppage mid-rounds. Cotto can box, he can punch, he can trade, he can take a serious amount of punishment, he can counter, he can time shots and he can fight at a high pace. Plus he has a good technician in his corner.

    Can Canelo walk through a Cotto shot? Can Canelo handle fighting at someone else's pace? Can Canelo deal with a top level boxer-puncher?

    On the other hand, Cotto will probably mark up from Canelo's power. Canelo packs a mean uppercut, Cotto's nemesis. Canelo looks a lot bigger than Cotto, will his size play a decisive role?

    I really hope this fight happens!

    Good post Techks ^^^ I'm of the same opinion as you, he looks very promising, but until he fights real opposition I'll reserve judgement. Also agree that if you're ready for a world title, you're ready for a real fight. All this 'preparing' world champions with soft defenses really sickens me. It's like the title 'Champion of the World' doesn't actually mean anything.
     
  11. NOTINDAFACE

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    Best post so far:good
     
  12. DrX

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    if the cotto that showed up against floyd comes....he can win
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I fear how ESB will treat Canelo if he does struggle in his next fight and/or loses to someone he was suppose to dispose of. I say lets wait for his competition to step up to gauge more at how he'd fare against the elite.
     
  14. IsaL

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    Don't pretend as if Cotto is in his prime. At 154 who has Cotto beat? A washed up Mayorga, a one eyed Margarito, a one legged Jew?

    Cotto's best accomplishment at 154 is not being completely dominated by Mayweather.:roll:

    Lets not pretend that Cotto won his first belt against legit competition either... And lets not pretend he defended against legit competition immediatelty after winning the vacant belt, and lets also not pretend Cotto was outweighing opponents by nearl 20 pounds on fight night.

    IMO the Cotto/Canelo fight is 50/50, but I give the edge to the fresher, stronger, faster fighter in Alvarez over the older, battle worn, slower Cotto.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Trust me I want to see Canelo shine but all this hype may even get to his head and he may be trying things out of his style and lose to one he shouldn't. Remember Lemiux hype? I see that with GGG now but let him lose and guys will turn on him faster than we want sexy womens tops to come off. People just don't learn....

    Well many here see Cotto as "shot" too:patsch

    Agree, my post stated that as well. Easy to look good against opposition handpicked for your style. He's done nothing to show he can handle elite fighters and GBP is setting him up to fail. He says he doesn't take opponents lightly but eventually with all these gimmies he'll feel invincible. Afterwards, he'll take a solid fighter or terrible underdog light and lose or face a huge scare to lose eventually thus killing his hype.