Mayweather Sr: Floyd Jr should Duck Sergio

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    3 million less, when were are talking 42 million up front is getting raped :huhI mean if he's going to win (because he's #1 and all right) then the other 20% is just a concession to get the show on the road. The 20 percent is just a formality, he gets the money after he wins!

    I don't know homey...that sounds like a good deal to me :thumbsup
     
  2. Thatman

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    It isn't up front for starters. That would be the total amount (approx) split amongst the fighters.

    As for "winning and losing" you should watch Whitaker and Chavez or Lara and Williams to see why you leave 0 in the hands of the judges.

    The fighters would split around 100-110 million. I used 105 million as my "X" number. Here, lemme post it for ya.:thumbsup
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its all about ego - cutting off their nose to spite their face
    pac 'losing' to bradley may have created another potential stumbling block

    its not like anyone is getting 'ripped off' - they are both making career high paydays - and more importantly.....they can put their careers to bed after this single fight having fought their nemesis

    its a crime that a sport that isnt mainstream cant get a huge injection and be in the spotlight for one night from two of its main protagonists

    screw the money - they'll get paid well - this fight should be on from 2 fighters who have made a lot of money from a sport which now needs them to 'give back'
     
  4. Thatman

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    Floyd Mayweather PPVs


    vs Oscar De La Hoya (2,400,000 buys - est. revenue $138,000,000)
    vs Ricky Hatton (920,000 buys - est. revenue $46,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,050,000 buys - est. revenue $52,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,400,000 buys - est. revenue $78,000,000)
    vs Victor Ortiz (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $78,400,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,500,000 buys - est. revenue $94,000,000)


    Total buys = 8,520,000
    Average buys = 1,420,000


    Total est. revenue = $486,000,000
    Average est. revenue = $81,150,000


    Manny Pacquiao PPVs


    vs Oscar De La Hoya (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $71,000,000)
    vs Ricky Hatton (850,000 buys - est. revenue $42,500,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $72,500,000)
    vs Joshua Clottey (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)
    vs Antonio Margarito (1,150,000 buys - est. revenue $57,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,340,000 buys - est. revenue $73,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,450,000 buys - est. revenue $74,000,000)
    vs Timothy Bradley (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)


    Total buys = 8,690,000
    Average buys = 1,086,250


    Total est. revenue = $460,500,000
    Average est. revenue = $57,562,500



    $81,150,000 (Floyd's average est. revenue) + $57,562,500(Manny's average est. revenue) = $138,712,500(Combined average est. revenue)


    81,150,000/138,712,500= 0.585
    57,562,500/138,712,500= 0.414
     
  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I started watching when I was 9 first fight I saw was Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs "Sugar" Ray Leonard! Been hooked ever since, and I'm neither a ******* or a *****. Just a Boxing fan who wants to see the best fights out there get made :good
     
  6. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    But doesn't every fighter Floyd fights make double their career high payday (if not more than) while Floyd makes what he makes?

    So why is it so much different in this case :think
     
  7. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd can't even
    make 144 so I don't know what Sr. is talking about. I think want Sr. is trying to say is what Bradley dad was saying,"I smell *****"!
     
  8. Thatman

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    But they don't do the same numbers.

    At 50/50 Floyd would end up with about $52.5 million while Manny would end up with $52.5 million.

    Floyd has a career high of $45 million against Cotto (Oscar holds the 1 spot for money made off 1 fight at $52.8 million for his fight with Floyd), while Manny has a career high of $25.5 million for the Marquez 3 fight. So Manny would more than double his career high payday while Floyd would make $7.5 million more than his career high payday.

    Oscar and Floyd split $79 million dollars and that was the biggest fight in history. Of that $79 million $23.3 million was Oscar's guarantee while Floyd was given his high at the time of $10.0 million. They ended up with approx. $138 million in revenue. The fighters ended up taking approx $46 million of that (or 33%).

    Oscar took $29.5 million of that while Floyd got the other $16.2 million. The other 2/3 was split amongst the networks.

    Floyd was not getting a guarantee for the Manny fight. Manny was getting $40 million while Floyd was taking 100% revenue. Think of it like Manny making his salary while Floyd is earning strictly commission.

    We can safely assume that the fight does about 400-600K more in PPV buys over De La Hoya Mayweather and ends up with approx. $195 million in revenue. Of that Floyd would take $65 million which would be $20 million more his highest payday while Manny would end up with his $40 million and that's $14.5 million more his highest payday. Why Floyd ends up with $5.5 million more than Manny for high paydays?? The revenue supports Floyd doing approx 33% more in revenue per fight, since both became stars.
     
  9. rorschach51

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    So you were 5 when you started watching Boxing? Impressive, were you able to retain and understand what you were seeing at that age?:bbb
     
  10. Thatman

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    No they do not. Cotto made $5 million (plus PPV profits) and was given $8 million for Floyd.

    Try looking at it in terms of percentages. No every fighter does not make double their highest payday with Floyd.

    Ortiz did because he did not have a huge high payday. Mosley, Marquez, and Cotto did not. Hatton did.
     
  11. Thatman

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    If I was borin in 1981 and I started watching Roy in late 88, I would not be 5.

    Yes I understood what was going on. I also understood the meaning of the missed kick by Scott Norwood in Super Bowl 25 against the Giants. I understood the no huddle offense that Buffalo was running. You can go to boxing gyms in the USA and around the world and find 7 year olds who watch, understand, know the rules of the sport. It isn't hard. My daughter is 3 and will be boxing and starting to learn soccer in less than 2 years.
     
  12. rorschach51

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    I have seen both, and you you've seen me post around here, you'd know that I still ***** about the Whitaker vs Chavez abortion and always pull it out as reference when people complain a bout a robbery. So they can remember what a real robbery looks like :hey
     
  13. Thatman

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    More trolling huh....:rofl

    He can make 140 with dehydrating himself as other fighters do. He refused to dehydrate himself for the Marquez fight and chose to pay the money. Marquez is a grown man and could have told him you go make the weight or the fight is off and not took the money.
     
  14. bobotnaman

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    you're thinking that floyd would lose. 40-40-20 for the winner is almost the same 59-41 you keep rambling about on every thread.
     
  15. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but this is about the two P4P kings of their era fighting each other to see who legitimizes their claim as the greatest modern day fighter - and at the time this fight SHOULD have been made - people were split between who would win

    let them fight over other matchups where they are GUARANTEED to get the split they want, just make this happen because it discredits the sport when it isnt