Ken Norton 'The Uncrowned Heavyweight Champion'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Ken Norton has been named 'The Uncrowned Heavyweight Champion'
    following his decision over Muhammad Ali at Yankee Stadium on Tuesday Night.

    The sports-journalists at ringside, all voted for the San Diego Heavyweight as the
    'clear' winner in his fight with the now 'Uncrowned' Muhammad Ali.

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  2. phierl

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    Great fighter, deserved better, but that was the best era in hw history that i know of.
    These guys were masters, and contenders could easily have been world champs in other eras
     
  3. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SP,
    Thanks for starting a thread such as this. I have ALWAYS considered Ken Norton the Heavyweight Champion of The World from 27 September 1976 to June 9, 1978.

    Norton (I may have mentioned this!!!) is one of my favourite halfa dozen fighters of all time, partly because of the dignified way he carried himself, and partly because of the injustice I sincerely believe he suffered that night in Yankee Stadium, and also the injustice he suffered after that fight when not given the rematch he so clearly deserved.

    That decision rankles with me nearly 36 years later, I can only imagine how much it must have hurt Ken.

    I truly believe that if Ken had been given the decision that night, he would have held the title with class, pride and dignity, and been rightly remembered as a good champion, a worthy champion in arguably the greatest HW era ever, and probably ranked in pure championship terms alongside the likes of Walcott & Charles. Norton would have been remembered as a great fighter by many more people than currently consider him great - he would also NOT be remembered as the only world champion never to "win" a world title fight. For me, he won a world title fight on 27 September 1976.
     
  4. Stevie G

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    Yes,Muhammad indeed had the luck of the Devil in getting the decision in that third bout with Ken. We ALL get it. As I keep on saying though,time and time again,Ali was hardly the first or last to get a lucky nod from the judges.
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Ken Norton

    The 'New Uncrowned Heavyweight Champion'

    'I guess I should offer the ex-Champion Muhammad Ali a rematch, but that would
    not be fair to everyone. The WBC does not permit 'immediate' rematches. I will
    follow the rules and guidelines, which I learned as a Marine. I will honor the WBC
    and the Championship Committe, and all rules set forth for a defending Champion.'

    'As a San Diego resident, I will make my 'first defense'' in front of my hometown fans,
    and most likely very quickly. I will be a 'Fighting Champion'.'

    'I have no problem fighting in 10-weeks, and I am in the process of setting up a fight
    for mid-December, probably with the winner of the Richard Dunn - Joe Bugner fight
    for the European Championship (to be held on October 16, 1976).

    'I just talked to Joe Bugner, and he said he will put Richard Dunn away in the 1st-Round,
    and quickly get over here to California.'

    'After that, we'll see. Maybe an 'easy one' in February 1977 against 'undefeated'
    New England Heavyweight - John 'Dino' Denis. Then we'll see what country Muhammad Ali
    is visiting. I've heard he went to Istanbul, Turkey to fight their Champion next.'
     
  6. Stevie G

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    I liked Ken too. He and Joe Frazier tied for my second favourite heavyweight of the seventies. I rate him the fourth best heavy in that decade. One place above Larry Holmes,as Larry did n't come into prominence until the decade's end. Great fighters and great days.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I dont rate him as a great fighter and I think the term is grossly overused.
    Norton's resume of wins versus top fighters is very thin, imo.
     
  8. Stevie G

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    Well,victories over Muhammad Ali and Jimmy Young are n't doing too badly. What Ken's resume lacks in quantity,it makes up for in quality.
     
  9. mcvey

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    One win over a great fighter who was past prime ,and who avenged it twice, does not make you a great fighter imo.
     
  10. Senor Pepe'

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    Saturday Night - December 11, 1976

    San Diego Stadium - San Diego, California

    Attendance; 52,000

    Ken Norton retains his Heavyweight Championship by stopping (TKO 12)
    European Heavyweight Champion - #4 Ranked -Joe Bugner.

    In a 'highly sprited bout' Kenny Norton over-came some difficulty from the
    6' 4" Bugner, who used his left jab to keep the Champion at bay in the early
    rounds, to build a lead on the scorecards.

    But Norton came on strong after a slow start, and pounded Bugner with hard hooks
    to the body in Rounds 6 thru 9, that made the big Hungarian whince.

    Bugner retaliated in Round 10, by scoring with several good right hands that backed
    Kenny off of him. And late in the round, Bugner landed his 'best' punch of the fight,
    by scoring with a hard right hand to Kenny's left eye, that caused it to swell immediately.

    Bugner had some brief success early in Round 11, as Norton had some difficulty seeing
    out of his left eye. But by the end of the round, Kenny was winging his best hard right hands
    that had Bugner in some trouble.

    In Round 12, Norton came out fast and landed several hard left hooks to the body,
    that had Bugner bending over in pain. A hard right hand and left hook to the head by
    Norton forced Bugner to take a knee, and mandatory '8-Count'.

    When Referee - John Thomas waved the fight to continue, Kenny attacked with a
    vicious 17-punch assault to the hurt Bugner, and John Thomas was forced to stop
    the battering at 1:02 of Round 12.

    Ken Norton was ahead at the the time of the stoppage, by a score of 107-103.

    The Champion improves his record to 39-3-0 (31 KO's), and received a fight purse of $3,000,000.

    The Challenger Joe Bugner received a fight purse $600,000.
     
  11. Skins

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    I actually have that magazine and it is a preview of Ali-Norton III
     
  12. Senor Pepe'

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    December 1976

    Kenny Norton after a successful 'first defense' in San Diego, California
    on December 11, 1976 will defend his Championship Crown next in
    Las Vegas, set for early- February 1977.

    Asked if he will fight Muhammad Ali a 'fourth time', the 'New Uncrowned
    Champion' said, 'I can't find Muhammad, so it's a no go.'

    "We have undefeated #10 Ranked John 'Dino' Denis 30-0-1 (15 KO's)
    lined up next. He just had back-to-back wins over that tough guy
    Scott LeDoux. He's a good clean kid, and should make for a decent fight.'

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  13. Lord Tywin

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    Norton cant complain too loudly, he got a gift over Young.

    If he had beaten Ali, in a fight that could have gone either way (hardly a robbery), and equal justice had been served by his losing to Young his reign would have only lasted a year and would still be paper thin.

    Norton has one of the weakest resumes of any hall of famer or supposed great.
     
  14. hobgob21

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    Thanks for posting gems like this.
     
  15. Seamus

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    Post-Rumble to Holmes-Norton was a horrible period for the division. One of the reasons the 70's are so over-rated for the division. Still, Norton should have been champ. How did you guys score Holmes-Norton? That was a great fight.