Nobody in the history of boxing can beat the best version of Lewis. Nobody.

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  1. FelixTrinidad

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    Prime Ali and Prime Tyson would have given it a great great fight.

    I'm not gonna response to such delusional statements like
    'Bonavena,Doug Jones, and Archie Moore.'
     
  2. FelixTrinidad

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    I broke down Lewis vs Louis and Lewis vs Holmes.

    No trolling in either one of those break downs. It is my opinion, you wanna refute it? REFUTE IT with some ****ing knowledge and intelligence.

    Don't come crawling in on your belly spamming

    RAHMAN, MCCALL WAH WAH WAH. Those are signs of a insecure Klittard. Are you a Klittard? You wanna refute my statement, refute it by writing out a paragraph.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

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    Vitali beats them both.
     
  4. Collie

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    :patsch

    You make a thread of a very debatable nature and expect nobody to disagree or tell those who do disagree what you will do to them. I give you 1 and a half popcorn buckets out of 5 for the quality of that, and many of your, posts.


    I think Lewis is good H2H (I don't place much emphasis on H2H in general) but can't ignore the fact that he got KO'd twice against two HW's not within a roar of any ATG list, just above journeyman class, and you expect him to steam-roll the division's greatest ever, without question?

    To sum up: Lewis would have a chance H2H against the other greats and probably beats a good few of them a good bit of the time, but could also be beaten by any of them with his questionable (certainly at ATG level) chin and dedication.
     
  5. FelixTrinidad

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    Another Troll ****ing post. Break down the fights or don't say ****.

    You can easily refute a thread by spamming one liners like

    'VITALI WINS' or 'NAH LEWIS KO' or 'TYSON KO' . Those are the signs of a ****ing idiot. You CONVINCE me, Vitali can beat a PRIME Lewis and I might just might give you a tiny drop of respect.
     
  6. DJAdAmS

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    Tyson got knocked out by nobodies, Ali got ko by Henry Cooper and helped by Dundee and by the bell where as the count would of kept going today. Lennox lewis gets tarnished because of McCall and Rahman, but face it he beat everone he ever faced.... LEGEND! If he was from the USA he would be the second coming since Ali!!
     
  7. FelixTrinidad

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    What are you stupid? I already broke down Lewis vs Holmes Lewis vs Louis and his resume.

    Instead of going against my logic, you picked out another post where I insulted someone. Why not YOU CONVINCE ME Lewis can lose against Holmes or Louis.
     
  8. FelixTrinidad

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    The ****ing black and white Gods of your era (You are probably some old man)

    would have died against Lennox's resume. I hate copy and pasting because it remains me of Vladimir23 (uhh wat a bad experience) but I will just for you.



    Lennox Lewis's career break down
    Lewis have the honor of being the only modern day heavyweight to defeat every man he ever faced. He avenged both his fluke defeats in spectacular fashion and have a great resume.
    In the case of Lennox, it is not 1 or 2 wins that stands out but his amazing collective body of work that really puts him ahead of the pack. Lewis in his 15th fight fought a undefeated power puncher name Gary Mason. Gary Mason was 35-0 with 34 Knock outs. Let's think for a moment about just how special that is.

    Gary Mason's 'padded record' stage consists Tyrell Biggs, James Tillis, Lorenzo Boyd, Alfonzo Ratliff, Ricky Parkey, Donnie Long, James Pritchard, Mark Wills, Everett Martin, Louis Pergaud, Hughroy Currie, Terry Armstrong, David Jaco and Jess Harding. Compare those fights to the fighters Detontay Wilder knocked out and you will see the sheer skill difference between the two.
    Mason had a 99% knock out ratio heading into the Lewis fight. Lewis was a virtual youngster and he ended up knocking out the knock out artist.

    Lewis went on to ko Biggs and Weaver and put up a string of very good performances before entering a 4 men elimination tournament which consisted of

    Bowe-Holyfield
    Lewis-Ruddock.
    Razer Ruddock was one of the most feared punchers in the division and a solid favorite to beat the relatively unknown Brit. Lennox ended up destroying Ruddock in 2 rounds. What followed was one of the most despicable acts known to mankind as Riddick Big ***** Bowe decided to duck Lennox and throw his belt into the trashcan. Cheating Lewis of a possible career defining trilogy. Bowe was dominated by Lewis in the Olympics and never ever wanted to get within 200 miles of Lewis's fists ever again.
    Lewis lost motivation, but still managed to come from behind and knock out Frank Bruno (who is a very solid HW and would have been champion today). He also beat Tony Tucker, who is one of the most under rated heavies of the last 3 eras, Tucker went the distance with a prime Tyson and had Tyson fighting confused for stretches.

    He lost to Oliver Mccall via a debatable stoppage, regrouped and came back to dominate another underrated fighter in Tommy Morrison. Prime Ray Mercer followed. I hear some people joke about how Mercer was a split decision nail biting fight. These people don't know **** about boxing and should re watch the fight. The match was close and a prime Mercer fought his heart out, but lost steam starting from Round 5 and was eating Lewis right hands, combinations, along with long jabs to the face again and again.
    Lewis-Mercer was a very competitive 7-3 affair.

    Lewis went on to beat Mccall in the rematch, Lennox caused some sort of mental melt down from Mccall(some people say drugs, I say Lewis's right hand)
    Lennox went on to KO the very feared Golota in one round. Golota beat the living crap out of Riddick Bowe for 2 straight fights. His low blows was disgraceful, but it don't change the fact Golota won 90% of the rounds and beat Bowe half to death.
    Lewis was a under dog and knocked out Golota in 1 round.

    ÂŽeljko Mavrović was a undefeated iron chin super champion from Europe and Lennox beat him 9-3. At best you can say it was a 8-4 fight. Zeljko had a lot of talent, heart and chin. What happened after the Lewis fight was a shame, a damn shame. To this day, Lewis was the only guy to have beaten Mavrovic, so many others tried, they all failed. With the exception of Lennox.
    Prime Shannon Briggs was knocked down numerous times and destroyed by Lennox in the fifth. Some of the most surreal shoulder roll defense was shown by Lewis in that fight. A decade later, a shot Briggs went 12 with a Prime Vitali.

    Lewis dominated and embarrassed a still elite Holyfield and won 10-2 on every score card imaginable to the human race. He was cheated by sand Devil Demon Don King. He went on to beat Holyfield again, albeit not as dominant as the first time.

    Michael Grant was hyped beyond belief. This ****er was the original Lucian Bute of the HW'S and he was Froched by Lennox. Grant was also 6'8 and a giant super HW with great athletic abilities. People say Golota and Grant didn't do anything after Lennox fought them, of course they didn't. Lewis broke them, they were done.

    Lennox went on to fight murderous super puncher David Tua and made Tua look like some kind of fat sparring partner. I had it 12-0 Lewis in the widest most dominant performance of all times when it comes to UD'S.

    If you think Wladimir dominated Haye, go watch Lewis-Tua, that is what true domination is all about. Oh btw, that version of Tua would have knocked out Haye in 4-5 Rounds tops.

    Lewis avenged his defeat against Rahman by throwing quite possibly one of the most ruthless 1-2 in boxing history and went on to dominate Mike Tyson. Lewis vs Mike is like Calzaghe vs Jones.
    Both Mike and Jones was shot, but Calzaghe and Lewis were past their best days as well.

    Lennox retired by beating Vitali, despite being a very fat 256+ and heavily under trained. HBO repeatly mentioned how fat and how under conditioned Lewis looked.
    Lewis against a Prime Vitali was a war and Lennox was coming on strong in the end. Rounds 4-6, Lennox was pouring it on and Vitali would not have survived past the 8th if the fight was not stopped.







    Lewis vs Holmes
    Larry Holmes arguably had the slightly better jab. He will be giving up a slight height advantage, a pretty big overall size advantage and a slight reach advantage.
    Holmes was a great boxer, and loved getting into jab battles. The issue with that is Holmes will WIN the jab battle against Lewis, that's actually a bad thing. It will force LL to unleash the beast within him and that only comes out when he feels like it. When seeing that he is being out jabbed and out pointed, Lewis will take the battle inside and hit Ole Larry with a variety of upper cuts and Lennox is the greatest street fighter of all times. Larry will not be able to understand why he suddenly have a massive cut below his eye.
    Lewis is a 5 dem Boxer, a jabber, puncher, mover. When the jabber start getting out jabbed(something that I honestly doubt, but let's just say he does) he will become the inside puncher aggressive super fighter that he is.
    Holmes getting hit with a Lewis right hand is inevitable. Lewis is not Ernie Shavers. Holmes WILL not be getting up.
    Larry struggled with Witherspoon,Williams,Norton and Cooney. All tall fighters who could jab back at him and who could attack and impose their own size.
    Lewis is far superior to any one of those four chipmunks.
    I honestly see a close jab battle, until Lewis start getting to Holmes on the inside and hitting him with a combination of upper cuts, ending Holmes around the 8th.


    Lewis vs Louis

    Lewis made a career out of destroying big punchers. Now did any of them punch as hard as Joe Joe, debatable. That being said Louis need to get inside on Lennox to win this one. If Joe can constantly land those lefts and inside combinations to the body of Lennox and some to the head, he will make it a very long night.
    I just don't see how Joe can consistantly do this without taking massive punishment himself though.
    would likely be the best all around fighter that Louis ever fought in terms of being balanced in skill, size, power, speed etc. Joe fought Buddy Bear, Buddy Bear is like a 4th grade Lennox Lewis. Lewis have too much a combination of size, power, skills, jab, and that big right hand for the much smaller Joe to overcome.
    The upper cuts Lewis will land as Joe gets inside will be too much and too devasting.
    Joe will give it a great go, he is a ruthless stalker and one of the great finishers. Once Joe gets you hurt, it's very hard for you to recover. The one thing we DO see from Lewis is that he recovers from being hurt very quickly. Outside of the two fluke ko's, every fighter Lewis was hurt in, he came back stronger.
    Vitali-Bruno-Mercer-Briggs-Mason he was hurt in all of them and he came back. Obviously not one of those guys were any where near Joe's caliber, I'll admit that much.
    Still I just don't see Joe's combinations,skills,power and heart over coming Lewis's own combinations, skills, SUPERIOR SIZE, superior jab, superior power, and equal heart.




    You gonna read all that ? AND GIVE ME SOME GOOD INSIGHT

    Or you just gonna be a lil PAWN and run away with your tail between your legs
     
  9. Collie

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    I thought I just did. Questionable chin (Ko'd twice be non-ATG's) vs. probably greatest heavyweight puncher of all time (Joe Louis), need I say more?

    I obviously can't convince you as you are set in your opinion. Don't act as though it is more than that though, it is just opinion, as is mine (although IMO mine is more rational)

    EDIT: I'm not an old man, 21yrs of age.
     
  10. FelixTrinidad

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    Fantastic post man.

    So many good posters. I am very impressed. Great post.
     
  11. FelixTrinidad

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    I broke down Lewis's resume and all the weaknesses of Holmes Louis against the weaknesses of Lewis and the strengthes along with how they most likely would have played out.

    You wrote a ****ing 2 liner, ya you did more 'convincing' :patsch


    You think Lewis will treat Joe Louis the same way he treated Mccall.

    Do you not know what the BEST VERSION is?

    Wladimir got knocked out by Sanders.
    well UH IF SANDERS CAN DO IT , SO CAN OH EVERYONE. SETH MITCHELL CAN TOO. DUH DUH DUH


    ROFL. For you to pick 1-2 fights in which a boxer was at his worst and to use that as a basis for ANOTHER fight is pathetic.

    Lewis will be 100% prepared, 100% focus and 100% ready against the likes of Joe Louis. If you think Lewis will treat ****ing Louis the same way he treated MCCALL. You need to re learn boxing.


    Lennox also fought much bigger punchers then Joe Louis ever did.
    In his 15th fight he fought a 100% KO RATIO 35-0 champion in Mason. 15th fight. His chin is highly under rated.
     
  12. vnyc

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    stfu britfag
     
  13. BewareofDawg

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    stfu
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    He lost all credibility when he said SRR against Lewis. Troll Thread.
     
  15. FelixTrinidad

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    No YOU stfu, you gorilla cum swallowing, Klittarari ****ing donkey dick *****.