Nobody in the history of boxing can beat the best version of Lewis. Nobody.

They certainly were able to offset Tyson's plans off attack with the use of the Clinch/Defense. They went into survival mode. This made Tyson frustrated.

A little thing on his frustration: Tyson used to clinch fighters even though some like to play it off as it was just the opponents doing it.
Big Men using their advantage on a smaller fighter.

Tyson knew what he was doing. He was able to position himself a certain way in order to get the leverage to clinch and control. The way he would wrap his arms around/under the opponent's own arms.
It reminded me of Jack Dempsey.
But when he wanted to fight and the opponent didn't and that opponent used the clinch on him, he got frustrated that they weren't playing along. They weren't fighting. It was Rooney who had to council him in the corner on what to do next.



Smith: Smith was one of those guys that would initiate the clinch while Tyson wanted him to throw so he could counter. But since Smith wasn't playing along and wasn't looking to fight but only to survive, Tyson started to get frustrated.
It is really the only fight I can remember that Tyson didn't seem to like this fight being mentioned because of how boring it was to him. How frustrated he got with Smith's unwillingness to participate in a fight.


Tucker was another one that wouldn't play Tyson's game and was able to initiate the clinch which again, frustrated Tyson. It was only after Rooney got in his ear that Tyson decided it was time to "box" and fight behind the Jab that Tyson really pulled ahead.
But his size was a disadvantage for sure. Guys like Smith and Tucker had those long arms to clinch Tyson up.

Tucker was Good. An athletic 6'5 Big Man. But he had some issues after the Tyson fight. He seemed to be placed in limbo after the Tyson fight and his outside life I hear became a mess. I'm not sure about everything that happened.
He was a Detroit Fighter that had connections with Emanuel Steward.

Overall, it's hard to fight fighters so much taller than you with such a reach advantage as well.

Tyson was Great for his size during the years he was properly trained. That was key: having the right trainer, the training, grooming, and motivation because at that size, forget it when going up against Bigger Men who are in top form themselves.

Lewis could do the things that both Tucker and Smith did but a slight difference is that Lewis would fight to win and in doing so, that changes things in a fight. because you have to fight back to win by taking chances. What are chances? Throwing back to score. And what does that do? Leaves you open to be countered/hit back.

 

Didn't read others but a Prime Tyson (Kevin Rooney era), Prime Lewis jab would have no EFFECT, Tyson speed over whelmed everyone he fought, combined with his bob weave(Which Lewis jab would have NO EFFECT) and power he would absolutely destroy anyone let alone Lewis.




lol

 

LlL and the Klits or any super heavys tend to get tired faster and get sloppy if they couldn't ko their opponents. Their punch resistance isn't as good as previously thought. 80s Tyson had the defense Byrd had and he was much quicker than Lewis or the Klits he's definitely getting inside. LL was a good inside fighter too for a big guy, but he would be no match for Tyson once Tyson was in his domain. None, even Vitali, did not have the footwork, reflexes, or defense of an Ali to evade Tysons best shots. Tho similar in age, Tyson was a shell while Lewis still a world class fighter. Tyson started losing to journeymen like Williams and McBride ffs not long after! Those fighters he'd destroy in 3 rounds tops in his prime. Prime Mercer was one of the toughest best contenders ever and he took a prime LL the distance, many thought Mercer beat Lewis. Prime Tyson was much better.

 

He had heavyweight power but light weight everything else.

 

I see. Do you make any other significant changes in boxing history that you want to mention?

Holmes-Spinks 2?
Ali-Young?
Ali-Norton 1-3?

Just to name a few.

 

wtf lennox lewis woyld get koed by a 88 mike tyson joe louis george foreman ali and frazier

 

The problem with your argument is that the best version of Lewis almost lost to Mercer and Holyfield.

 

And was in one of the worst fights in history against Akinwande.

 

No.

The Joe Louis from the second Schmeling fight is the best Louis.

That Louis would massacre any heavyweight in history, H2H.

That includes your boy Lennox in no more than the first frame.

That is what I believe.

So, that is what that is, bro.

 

No but when it is decisive like Walcott flooring Louis' ass multiple times and outworking him in almost every single round, I do. Much like how I view Campillo/Cloud as a Campillo victory, Pacquiao/Marquez III as a Marquez victory, and Williams/Lara as a Lara victory.

I'm interested. You honor the decision as gospel?

 

I'm not rewriting history like you do.

You give rise to several questions such as:

Do you consider Calzaghe and Ottke undefeated?

State Pacquiao's record as you see it.

How does the fact that Jones Jr. was on PED's alter his record?

Just to name a few.

 

No of all the fighters I mentioned and Jerry Quarry who was very small and would've whooped Lennox 6'5 240lb ass from 1965-69.. No doubt...