Manny says 45/55 split is ok, as is any testing!!!

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  1. Thatman

    Thatman No respond troll pactards banned

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    My numbers are based on Arum and what he released plus HBO (which gives your argument the BOTD as I didn't use rumored lesser numbers for Mosley-Pac, Margarito-Pac, Bradley Pac). I am not using bs numbers..look at how your reaching.

    Manny is not doing the revenue that Floyd is doing. Manny did $35 million in his last fight with a guy who has never been on PPV while Floyd did $94 million in his last fight or set the 2nd highest record (at the time) with Ortiz and did $78,400,000 in revenue.

    I'm not going to come up in here w/out having my **** correct bro. Not that stupid.

    Keep trying though.:good
     
  2. Thatman

    Thatman No respond troll pactards banned

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    Here you go little man.

    Floyd Mayweather PPVs


    vs Oscar De La Hoya (2,400,000 buys - est. revenue $138,000,000)
    vs Ricky Hatton (920,000 buys - est. revenue $46,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,050,000 buys - est. revenue $52,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,400,000 buys - est. revenue $78,000,000)
    vs Victor Ortiz (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $78,400,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,500,000 buys - est. revenue $94,000,000)


    Total buys = 8,520,000
    Average buys = 1,420,000


    Total est. revenue = $486,000,000
    Average est. revenue = $81,150,000


    Manny Pacquiao PPVs


    vs Oscar De La Hoya (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $71,000,000)
    vs Ricky Hatton (850,000 buys - est. revenue $42,500,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $72,500,000)
    vs Joshua Clottey (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)
    vs Antonio Margarito (1,150,000 buys - est. revenue $57,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,340,000 buys - est. revenue $73,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,450,000 buys - est. revenue $74,000,000)
    vs Timothy Bradley (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)


    Total buys = 8,690,000
    Average buys = 1,086,250


    Total est. revenue = $460,500,000
    Average est. revenue = $57,562,500



    $81,150,000 (Floyd's average est. revenue) + $57,562,500(Manny's average est. revenue) = $138,712,500(Combined average est. revenue)


    81,150,000/138,712,500= 0.585=59% rounded
    57,562,500/138,712,500= 0.414=41% rounded

    Now you have the work already done. Simply plug in your numbers for 5 COMMON OPPONENTS. Your going to get less for Floyd and more for Manny. You'll get something that rounds to 57/43 in favor of Floyd.
     
  3. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    ^
    i quoted you saying you already did IT (remove B side Oscar fight on the equation) but Oscar's still there.
    why would it corrupt the numbers? by your statement, you said AFTER the Oscar fight they're both the A side, so why not remove the Oscar fight where both of them were B side?
    how does the recession not affect PPV buys? a lot of people are jobless and wouldn't pay $50 for a fight they could watch free on the net.
     
  4. Thatman

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    50/50 was justified then you dummy. Floyd had a career high of $26.2 million with Oscar at the time while Manny had a career high of $25.0 million with Cotto.

    Since then Floyd has gone on to do record breaking revenue numbers for Cotto, Ortiz, and before that Mosley while Manny's paydays have stayed the same and he is doing the same PPV.

    Looks like Manny is kicking himself in the ass for not taking 50/50 when 50/50 was justified.:deal
     
  5. Thatman

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    You corrupt them because they do not show the entire truth. On top of that I'm not using what I "think" they'll use. Haymon, Richard, and Oscar will not let that figure go in ACTUAL NEGOTIATIONS; as you put earlier they understand the game (mental game) and negotiating is part of that game.

    So exactly, both were b side so it's common.

    On top of that Oscar IS A COMMON OPPONENT. SO again, use common opponents.
     
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    Bye *******s. Looks like you all were put in your place by ONE poster. LMFAO.

    Look at the info I provided compared to what you clowns provided. ****ing pathetic. If this were a debate team I would have shown more points than any of you even when you try and team up.

    Peace out *******s its 219 here and I work at 10 and got better **** to do now.
     
  7. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This guy is a clown... The li'l roider should be content with 20% these days, and this not being a mega fight anymore, should be somewhere around 12-16 mil $. BTW, THIS IS NOW, after the Marquez fight he'll probably be fighting in Mayweather's undercards!
     
  8. BoppaZoo

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    So your saying that Pacquiao even though Internationally outsells Floyd it means nothing.

    Mate your the one making excuses for Floyd when only 2 years ago FLOYD AGREED to 50/50.

    55/45 sounds Fair for such a fight as you forget and never mention the one thing that matters in these numbers.

    Manny Pacuiao's total money earnt from Forbes list is after he has paid Arum where Floyd does not have to pay so.

    With Floyd getting 55 to Pacs 45 (And he pays Arum) it pretty much makes all these ****ing stupid ass excuses your making for Floyd seem idiotic.

    Marvin Hagler has more of an idea than both of us and mate Floyd continues to make excuses as do you for him.

    Which leads to one word.

    Terminator.:deal:lol:
     
  9. trippy1

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    Sorry Pacquiao, Floyd doesn't want you to have any PPV. lol

    Oh, and Floyd is still recovering from eating jail food and *GASP* tap water! lol
     
  10. bobotnaman

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    alright im gonna do this your way and spend time doing math on a boxing forum. first im gonna remove Oscar since you said FMJ and Pac were B side in those fight.
    so why not compute AFTER Oscar since both of them have been A side after that.

    Floyd Mayweather PPVs


    vs Ricky Hatton (920,000 buys - est. revenue $46,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,050,000 buys - est. revenue $52,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,400,000 buys - est. revenue $78,000,000)
    vs Victor Ortiz (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $78,400,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,500,000 buys - est. revenue $94,000,000)


    Total buys = 6,120,000
    Average buys = 1,224,000


    Total est. revenue = $348,900,000
    Average est. revenue = $69,780,000


    Manny Pacquiao PPVs


    vs Ricky Hatton (850,000 buys - est. revenue $42,500,000)
    vs Miguel Cotto (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $72,500,000)
    vs Joshua Clottey (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)
    vs Antonio Margarito (1,150,000 buys - est. revenue $57,500,000)
    vs Shane Mosley (1,340,000 buys - est. revenue $73,000,000)
    vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,450,000 buys - est. revenue $74,000,000)
    vs Timothy Bradley (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)


    Total buys = 7,440,000
    Average buys = 1,062,857


    Total est. revenue = $389,500,000
    Average est. revenue = $55,642,857



    $69,780,000 (Floyd's average est. revenue) + $55,642,857 (Manny's average est. revenue) = $125,422,857(Combined average est. revenue)
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    :shock: that took me roughly 10mins...
     
  11. trippy1

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    Thatman,

    Look at Pac and Floyd's common opponents BESIDES the Oscar de la Hoya fight. JMM, Shane, Cotto, Hatton.... they are all close PPV-wise.

    The only big difference is Oscar, which is largely due to Oscar losing a lot of PPV-drawing power with the loss to Floyd and lack luster performance to Steve Forbes.

    Not to mention, when you average Manny's PPV, it includes Clottey and Tim Bradley which is kind of unfair since they have 10 fans in the world combined. And IIRC, Pac-Bradley did 900K not 700K.

    Anyways, it's pointless arguing what % share Pacquiao deserves because Floyd isn't giving him any. haha
     
  12. bobotnaman

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    ^ add to that why not include economic recession that affected PPV buys? cmon Thatman / sdsfinest22
     
  13. Jack Kollin

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    lol nice effort :lol:.. By the way I dont care if pac gets 40% I'm tired also of this guy's drama. I just dispute your math comparison thatman.. peace:D
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    he needs to replenish 15 pounds of pure muscles. he is not focused in boxing now and he has no urge to fight pac.
     
  15. Jacory Harris

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    Don't you ever get tired of posting the same ole bull**** over and over?