No Prime SMW in the last 20 years Beats Prime Roy Jones...Nope

Roy got hit every now and then but those punches he got hit with were half deflected/blocked, never a full of punch with leverage on it.

You Roy fans need to realize I'm complimenting him by saying he had a Glass Jaw in his prime, it makes Roy that much greater that he fought with a major handicap and was able to hide and disguise with his speed and reflexes.

 

Great post, some of these deniers need to get with the program.

 

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Calzaghe vs Ward

Quality of opposition faced:

Ward Calzaghe
Kessler > Kessler
Ward was a green contender, which makes his win better
Froch > Lacy
Froch is a better fighter than Lacy
Dawson > Reid
No explantion needed
Abraham = Eubank
Eubank took the fight at 11 days notice and would go 0-5 in his last 5 fights against relevant opposition

Winner: Ward

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Consistency:

Ward has remained undefeated while facing better opposition
Winner: Ward

Accomplishments:

Ward:
Winner of the ss
Ring champion
Unfified wba/wbc champion
Voted fighter of 2011

Calzaghe:
Wbo champion 21 defenses
(For most of his reign the wbo was equivalent to the IBO)
Ring Champion (became the champion at the end of his career)
Unified champion Ibf, Wba, Wbc

Winner: Ward

Positive categories:
Ward:3
Calzaghe:0

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Ward:3 Calzaghe:-1

Ward>>>>Calzaghe

 

If you say so. You know your posts are getting more and more irrational and delusional

 

Best wins:
woods: Johnson, Hoye, Gonzalez
Rochigiani: Nunn, Malinga, Hamsho

Accomplishments
Woods: IBF lhw champion 4 defenses
Rochigiani: IBF smw champion 3 defenses
WBC Champion 0 defenses

Woods's win over Johnson is better than Rochigiani's win over Nunn. Nunn was waay past prime around lhw McCallum level
so overall Woods has the better resume

Woods best acomplisment is a win over Johnson. If you think a LOSS to Maske is better than a WIN over Johnson then you good sir are clearly ******ed

Charles Williams? You got to be kidding me? I wouldn't even class him as a good win for Toney

As I said before Rochigiani was Woods level. The thing is I'm not even hating on him, he was tough but had a limited skill set.

Notable wins:
Rochigiani x 2

And that is ALL Maske has

 

How on earth was he more skilled? He fought with the turtle shell defense. Had a decent jab, left cross and left uppercut
Woods fought the same way, except he could fight off the back foot like he did during parts of Johnson III. Woods was also the better inside fighter

Better performances?
He barely got past past-prime Nunn, a very controversial decision, which had many boxing insiders divided. Dariusz after Graciano II would go on to get outboxed by a journeyman, for crying out loud.

Rochigiani would of got outclassed if he faced Jones, Tarver or Cloud

 

He could of continued but he had no answer to Graciano's style. His jab, right cross and left hook were all being constantly blocked. He was getting countered and was constantly getting tagged with jabs, crosses an uppercuts from Graciano. I had Graciano winning by a near shut out and if that fight continued he would of won by comfortable ud.
It was bull**** what he did.

Graciano got screwed by both Jones and Dariusz.

 

This is the post I feel I realy needed to address again.

No, you are

I'm going to deal with this point by point

Rochigiani didn't hear the ref call break and hit Dariusz with a left hook. Dariusz would then stagger to the other side of the ring and collapse and eventually get counted out
Rochigiani was not a big puncher at smw, at lhw he would of had below average punching power at best. On the flip side Dariusz had a solid chin, he was a scaled down cw after all, and had walked through everything Rochigiani had hit him with. It's the reason why alot of people believe he played up the effects of the punch hoping to get a win by dq

Ringside observers turned to the WBO official who then scored the fight a draw, which made absolutely no sense. Seeing as Rochigiani had not intentionly fouled and Dariusz was counted out. The decision should of gone to the scorecards which would of course made Rochigiani the winner, so he was already getting shafted, but worse was still to come

Whats the point of saying banned substance? Just name it.

http://articles.latimes.com/1997-03-19/sports/sp-39720_1_baseball-stars

Rochigiani would test positive for Ephredine which is a stimulant found in many OTC weight loss products. I don't know the rules of the German drug testing body, but as a guess I would say it was banned for the same reasons as Ephreda for health reasons rather than performance enhancing reasons. It is widely accepted the such stimulants can have adverse effects on a persons heart maybe even leading to heart attacks. THE WBO wouldn't even ask for a follow up drug test and the whole thing was basically forgotten about.

 

Weeks later the WBO would then deem Rochigiani's punch illegal:--( and he would then get diqualified

Boxrec

1996-08-10 Dariusz Michalczewski w disq 7 Graciano Rocchigiani, St Paul Stadium, Hamburg, Germany - WBO
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Measured Against All Time: Dariusz Michalczewski

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The WBO basically screwed him in preference for the more popular fighter. Dariusz would keep his belt and unbeaten record, while Rochigiani was most likely dropped down their ratings. Back in the 90's the WBO would do similiar things because they were desperate for their belts to say in the hands of big name fighters for example:

Hamed:
They made him a super champion so he didn't have to vacate his belt to avoid his mandatory jmm
Eubank:
WBO judges gave him a number of fights, which he didn't deserve to win

 

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...a=X&ei=yidaUImGOuH80QWhnYD4CQ&ved=0CEYQ7gEwBQ

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The only way Rochigiani was going to get a rematch was if Dariusz gave him a voluntary shot and there was no way he was going to do that because he knew he would lose

This of course explains why he came out of retirement to face Dariusz, because he still felt he had a score to settle. Unfortunately he was waay past prime something I'm sure Dariusz was counting on. shades of Leonard-Hagler.

It would of been easier for him to get a title shot from the wbc as he would of been dropped down the rankings of the wbo.

 

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Calzaghe didnt want it either

Calzaghe would of qualified as being a super champion before he faced Brewer because he did have a Showtime/Sky deal. Either way he definately was a super champion after beating Brewer to make 10 title defenses

http://www.wboboxing.com/wp-content/pdf/WBO_World_Championship_Rules.pdf
Scroll down to page 15-16

ALSO

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing%3a+I%27ll+weigh+in+with+a+move+up+and+title%2c+says+Joe.-a0111955050

In other words if he moved up after Brewer he would of automatically become the mandatory challenger for Daruisz's title.He choose to stay at smw and fight Mger M958asnsdi3g5rhe insteadatsch:rofl:rofl

 

atsch:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

General Sod doesn't half type some absolute bollocks. When I've got nothing to do with my time I may bother to reply to the boxrecing spastic. Until then just assume I disagree with every point you've made.