A new way to punch possibly much more powerful than the normal right cross ???

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by OMGWTF, Sep 26, 2012.


  1. OMGWTF

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIBBBQVIMw&feature=player_detailpage"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIBBBQVIMw&feature=player_detailpage[/ame]

    Ok in the above video the guy advises you to push explosively off the back leg in order to rotate the hips RATHER than the normal way which is to rotate the foot and then rotate the hips the hip rotation is then assisted by the push off of the rear leg especially if you sit down on the punch, but the key difference is he teaches to push of the rear leg 1st to rotate the hips 2nd, where as the normal way is to rotate the hips/foot 1st to push off the rear leg 2nd, it sounds the same but its a different sequence of events and theres a very different feel to each punch.

    My questions are...

    Is this way more powerful?

    Is it more or less effective overall?

    I find his way very hard to do Ive done it right before and it does feel very very powerful, however it just feels so unlearnt/unwired/awkward to push of that rear leg, is there a particular way to push off the rear leg to ensure full hip rotation? Sometimes it only partially rotates my hips and I feel like I cant push that hard from my relatively straight rear leg, sometimes it works a treat, but tbh I find it very hard to learn from his video, Can you do it his way and do you have any tips for learning/doing it his way properly???

    Lastly how do I throw a step in right cross the orthodox way? So not throwing from a stand still or with the jab first I literally mean leading with the straight right after stepping in (used against a southpaw) apparently stepping in increases the power of a normal cross but to me it weakens it and feels awkward, how do I do it properly???
     
  2. NVSemin

    NVSemin Sugar Boxing Full Member

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    I do not know what is your goal, break a brick wall?

    If knockdown/ knockout, it is all about speed, accuracy and suddenness

    Power wise, overhead punches are stronger, IMHO

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL1NYWSVrJY[/ame]
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always punched like this. I don't see anything new...
     
  4. OMGWTF

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    NICE!!

    Thanks for that video bud!!
     
  5. OMGWTF

    OMGWTF Guest

    Thats the kicker it looks EXACTLY the same both ways the key difference is the sequence of events, and this events happen so fast you cant see which way its being done and sometimes you cant even feel it when you do it.

    The key difference is with one way you push off the rear foot first rotate second (think shot put)

    With the other way you rotate first push second (think how a pro uses a base ball bat)

    The thing is with both ways the push and the hip rotation come milliseconds after the initial movement so its hard to tell, even when you push off the rear foot first the rear foot still spins because the hip is rotating, but you didnt spin the foot first!

    The question to ask yourself is are you spinning your foot first as the initiating movement or are you pushing off your foot first?
     
  6. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nah, it's the same. What sort of a spastic rotates their foot before they push off. It's done at the same time. If you're punching correctly you're not doing anything first then second, it's one motion.
     
  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont, Push Off the Foot, Push On the Foot. Oh, and by itself the Hip Cannot move.
     
  8. OMGWTF

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    Well the idea is to do it a tiny amount before you rotate the hip that way it gets the hip in motion THEN you fire the hip off, there are many ways to throw the same punch, some people for example turn the whole side of the body in one motion.
     
  9. OMGWTF

    OMGWTF Guest

    The hip muscles can move the hip by itself though if you have wired it up.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    6 degrees which is nothing, to protect the Spine, its all Feet and Knees. With the Head Orchestrating the Bio mechanics of the stabilizing side of the action . Secret of the Right Hand is staying on the Back foot, dont let the Heel lift more than 3" when Turning, or you lose Drive. When turning the Knee Bend goes from, 15% to10% with a pull back on the Left Shoulder, to stabalise the Back Foot, and move the Right Shoulder.
     
  11. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTpQe4OSy60&feature=g-user-u[/ame]
     
  12. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A no Bout Boy Learning.
     
  13. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well I think have a winner..:blood
     
  14. BoxinScienceUSA

    BoxinScienceUSA Member Full Member

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    I LOVE being part of this new movement that teaches the "new ... more powerful than the old right cross"!

    thanks for the positive reinforcement ;)

    http://youtu.be/YpXpeNy-Apg
     
  15. BattlingIyan

    BattlingIyan New Member Full Member

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