Has everyone forgotten Bute was avoided before the loss? Ward Pavlik Dirrell Kessler

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  1. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    If Ward had been the first man to beat Bute and then moved up to beat Dawson he would probably be P4P#1 now in my opinion.

    It's just a shame he ducked Bute then dragged Bad Glass Jawson down to 168 as he will have to wait until Mayweather and Pacquiao retire now to be considered the top guy in the sport.
     
  2. Rudyard

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    :lol: Nice deflection. I love how you just totally ignored my post to post this...Ward has never had a questionable decision unlike Bute...See Bute\Andrade for my example.

    Now again, since you're so keen on deflecting my points...What questionable decisions has Ward had in Oakland given his bouts have not been close when he fought there?
     
  3. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    I see your Bute\Andrade and I raise Kessler\Ward headbutting the leaving **** bleeding both eyes no warning no nothing
     
  4. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Also if Ward was winning that means robbing rounds of Bika or allowing illegal headbutt are okey? just because he was winning ?! :lol:
     
  5. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :rofl:rofl Gotcha, so you cant come with a logical I take it! You guys say the dumbest ****, but when called out on it...you cant even come up with a logcial response.

    If that makes you feel better then believe whatever you want.
     
  6. kirk

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    was gonna respond, then saw who started the thread :lol:
     
  7. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    You still must respond. Even if you probably will be a bit spiteful towards my boy Bute. :yep
     
  8. kirk

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    No spite with me to be honest.

    I didnt like bute at all, but when I seen him lose with such courage and class..... he won me over bigtime.

    I just dont think he was all that ducked. just imo.

    I think it worked out perfectly actually. Super six out of the way, bute cleans out the division of everyone who wasnt in the tourny, tourny is finished, and he fights the second place guy, winner gets to fight ward.

    I think it worked out ok, and dont think he was avoided all that much.

    just imo though.

    Heres to hoping Bute comes back strong :good
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Avoided?

    Entering the Super Six against better fighters isn't ducking Bute. It's fighting better competition than Bute ever had or would go on to (Froch L aside).

    First time he steps up against fellow top notch competition, he gets absolutely blown out in less than 6 rounds. Not saying I predicted it to happen when it did, but pro-Bute fans aside, everyone knew it was going to happen.

    Never at any point would I have picked Bute over Kessler, and that stands stronger than ever still today.

    At this point, I'd pick Ward, Froch, Kessler, and even Dirrell (who I dislike and find vastly overrated and talked about too much) to beat Bute.

    The Bute that Froch beat vs. the Dawson that Ward beat, honestly, would be a 50/50 fight.
     
  10. PityTheFool

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    Ah,so the reason Bute had the most derided resume in recent memory was because everyone was avoiding him?:patsch

    How did I miss that one?:huh
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Absolutely correct. Ward missed out on a big W against Bute, avoided the fight, and fought a horribly faded Dawson.
     
  12. crazy8s

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    :deal
     
  13. kirk

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    :lol:
     
  14. crazy8s

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    Nobody's been robbed in Oakland though. No long ten counts, or quick tkos over here.
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Funny 'cause it's true.

    Bute: I'll fight him in New York or even California if he likes

    Ward: Tell him to fight someone else first

    :patsch :lol: