DiBella on GGG: "Who would give a flying ****?"

A bigger paying following. An Irishman fighting at MSG on St. Paddy's day puts butts in seats. Golovkin couldn't fill the bar next door for those ticket prices.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. $3 million in Russia was never available to begin with - Titov is a known BS artist and there just isn't anywhere close to that kind of money available for any fight in Moscow that doesn't involve a Klitschko - and it's certainly not available now.

Have you actually watched Pirog's last couple fights? You don't get anywhere near $3 million by selling a few thousand $10 internet PPVs in the US (or selling the fight to a third-tier network like Epix, which is the only network buying overseas fights these days), selling TV rights to Polish, Argentinian and Russian cable networks, and half selling out a 5,000 capacity arena, which is the best that Pirog has ever drawn. He made something like $200,000 to fight Ishida. When he accepted an offer to fight Geale in Australia, he was only going to make $250,000. It's complete and utter crap that there's anywhere near that kind of money in this fight.

 

What the heck were Pavlik and Williams? Chopped liver? And Macklin's paper record is much better than Pirog's or GGG's. Other than Barker and Dzinziruk (who many rated as the #1 light middleweight in the world at the time), everyone he's faced has been top 5 in the weight class.

 

He's really in a unique situation, becoming a big timer in his mid 30es. I feel like he's paid his dues, and is entitled to some money fights, and not in Russia. Now the problem is, not many realistic money fights out there for him. I don't support him making more Dz and Barker type fights at the expense of GG say, but Geale would be a-ok.

 

3 million was on the table and Dibella admitted to it in the post I quoted from him. His actually complaint was that they couldn't get him and Sergio a dime over 3 million.

I have seen Pirogs last fight, regardless of that he still had the money on the table for Sergio and Sergio and Dibella admitted running away from it.

If you don't believe the promotor and Dibella that is on you, but they both seem to agree that 3 million was on the table for Sergio and Sergio didn't want it.

Tough **** for you boy, but that is on him and his *****-assness.

Pavlik was a ****ing drunk.
Pwill is a 154 /147 fighter.
Macklin is a ****ing euro bum the same with Barker.
Dzinziruk was a 154 fighter, why fight him at 160 and talk like it was a legit win?

Sergio fights no one except faded names or people out their weight class and euro bums.

Deal with it.

Top 160 fighters are calling him out and he wants none of it, he wants to fight Floyd. Tells you all you need to know about him really.

 

Macklin and Barker are euro bums? So what exactly is Golovkin?

Macklin has been at world level for the last 5 years or so, has worked hes way up by beating legit fighters.

Ive said it once so ill say it again GOLOVKINS BIGGEST VICTORY IS OVER A GUY THAT KERRY HOPE HAS A VICTORY OVER!!!!!!!!

Play it off all you want but Pavlik was a unified middleweight champ WHEN SERGIO BEAT HIM! He held the WBO and WBC titles.

Dzinziruk was considered by many to be the best fighter at a weight a measly 6 lbs below the one he fought Sergio at. People go up divisions to fight all the time. Floyds gone up in weight and in his first fight won a title on more than one occasion.

Barkers resume is actually of a very similiar standard to Golovkin for crying out loud!

His first fight with Williams was his first at middleweight. Up until then he had been a 147/154 fighter too.

 

Agree that GG has a crap resume that can't justify the hype he's getting. However:

Barker stepped up to the EBU level twice, and almost failed the test both times.

Macklin had never touched the world level until the Sturm fight, in fact he looked very much Euro level before, fooled Sturm.

Dz had only fought one Aussie clubfighter in over 2 years before moving up to a weight he claims is not ideal for him. Looked like a shot fighter in his last fight, and never really had a top level win, maybe close dec vs up and down Santos.

Proksa should have won vs Hope, despite the gruesome cut from rd 2. He didn't do any worse than Barker/Macklin did vs Belgecham/Spada/Varon/Ajetovic/Campas, except they were the hometown guys.

 

Macklin got schooled by Strum and to be honest at his best Sturm is nothing but a gatekeeper for the elite at 160, has been since B-Hop was in the division and he beat Oscar's ***** ass.

GGG has made more waves than Macklin and Barker, both typical UK bums. If you want to make waves about Macklin who has he beat? On top of that look who he has lost to, Jaime moore and Andrew Facey. Yep, that says it all doesn't it (sure you want to play that game still?)

Dzinziruk wasn't **** at 160, stop it. His first fight at 160 was the Sergio fight so cut that Dibella PR nonsense.

BArker hasn't handled his competition outside the UK in no why near the way GGG has, sad part is that on top of that Barker hasn't fought anyone as good as Proska. Let that sink in, I guess you can give him Sergio, but we know how that ended.

Doesn't matter if his first fight with williams was at MW, Williams was getting ready for Pavlik, Pavlik pulled out because of his drinking and Sergio was the replacement. The dude was never a career middleweight fighters and after the 2nd fight returned back to 154.

 

I mostly agree, except for Sturm schooling Macklin, wtf? He did have him out on his feet in rd 12, but Mack outworked him by a lot. I think the judges were generous to Murray next. But ultimately getting robbed by Sturm is no big deal, happened to Gevor and Randy Griffin too. Castillejo knocked him clean

 

So what if it was Dzinziruks first fight at 160? Whats your point? People go up weights and win titles ALL THE TIME. Floyd "wasnt ****" at 135 before he stepped up and beat Castillo,He wasnt **** at 140 before he stepped up and beat Gatti,he "wasnt ****" at 154 before he stepped up beat De La Hoya. Floyd is just one example,I could pick a dozen more. You may like to believe that being one of the best at 154,somehow has ZERO effect on fighting at 160,but if you believe that. YDKSAB.

Define "making waves" while you're at it.

As for Sturm "schooling" Macklin, now you're just trolling.

Spada while nothing special would be of a similiar standard to Proksa.

This ios of course ignoring the fact that Sergio is now a superstar,when he wasnt during the Barker fight,and is now a year closer to retirement.

Of course Sergio wants the big,money spinning fights/ Fighting a guy who brings no money to the table and whos beaten no one is obviously not on his radar.

Let Golovkin beat Quillin,or Macklin,or Pirog and then we may see a match with Sergio.

 

At least he is being honest about wanting to cash out. I can respect that.

What I can not respect is a guy fighting an obvious cash out fight and trying to say it is a legacy builder.

 

There's no evidence Dz was one of the best at 154, he hadn't fought a live body in over 2 years. Also, not everyone moves up successfully, see Ricky Hatton.

Proksa is probably a level above Spada. Barker Proksa would be an interesting fight. Certainly Proksa has the more impressive best win. Did you see Proksa Hope 1 btw, and if so, what was your score? BLH scored it 117-110 for Proksa, I had it a bit closer:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/3/1...z-proksa-majority-decision-scores-boxing-news

For comparison, BLH scored Barker Belghecham for the Frenchman FWIW:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/4/9/1413432/friday-global-boxing-results

 

Thats funny cause i rember Martinez was in this same postion.

 

Hates how Arum does things, yet he does the same type of ****. How much money would Golovkin bring? He would bring Martinez his one million and change minimum that HBO has been giving him for his last 5 fights. Golovkin would bring Martinez no less money than Dzinziruk, Barker, or Macklin. DiBella can take his excuses and shove them up his arse.

 

Golovkin would bring Martinez no less than what he got for Barker, Macklin and Dzinziruk. Funny how the money excuse is thrown around by DiBella and Martinez as reasons to first not fight Pirog, and now to not fight Golovkin, all the while Martinez continues to fight for his one million and change that HBO gave him for Barker, Macklin etc. Who by the way were no more well known, than Pirog, or Golovkin. The only thing is that Pirog, and Golovkin are better than Barker and Macklin.

 

He fought Macklin, a guy of Irish heritage on Patricks day in America.
You can be sure it brought BIG money.

And as beens said before, Times change,Martinez is a HUGE star now, and is 37. Hes looking for the big money fights. Hes not wasting his time with mandatories or any of that anymore.