Roy Jones Jr vs Rocky Marciano

Rocky fought the current lhw champ of his day. Ofcourse it's fair to match him with a lhw champ of any other day.

 

jones had a stretch at 175 where he was getting wins but turning in some very regular looking preformances against highly overmatched men, guys like david telesco, guys like derrick harmon. you remember him for being a bomber, but that was down at 160 and 168, he couldnt blow out these bigger guys and his lack of ko's at 175 proves it. the fact that he was fighting guys like david telesco and richard frazier is just a big joke. at 175 the greatness of jones is just a huge myth based on nothing tangible at all.

 

Total Domination of Ranked Contenders = Regular performances against highly overmatched men? OK

He had a broken wrist against Telesco btw. He stopped unstopped LHW champs like Virgil Hill, Clinton Woods, Griffin and half the time his opponents went into shells

 

Luf, in my twisted mind i thought this thread posed the question . Roy Jones jr /Rocky Marciano ?. So in reality it is ANY version of a Roy Jones
against a human heavyweight bulldozer Rocky Marciano who destroyed an
Ezzard Charles [185] Archie Moore[185] and a 188 wily ol cuss named
Joe Walcott...I can assure you Lloyd's of London wouldn't insure a fight between Roy Jones and Marciano, NOT because Jones wasn't talented
Rocky was too relentless to be denied against the fragile chinned Jones
as later events proved...
P.S. the lefthook that Walcott kod Ezzard Charles with in 1951, would have beheaded Roy Jones....
PPS. Roy Jones never truly faced an elite lightheavyweight even remotely in the class of Charles, Moore, Bob Foster, Billy Conn, Harold Johnson...:good

 

he also went 12 with a 175 pound ghost of mike mccallum who didnt go into any kind shell when he chased jones all around that ring all night. his best two wins at 175 are over hill and griffin and everything else there is a big display of nothing special at all. i dont understand the logic that beating hill and griffin gets him a win over rocky marciano. i like jones but his campaign at 175 has nothing to show any real excellence, and is capped off by a knockout loss to antonio tarver, if that means anything to us at all

 

Bob Foster's name keeps getting thrown around (and for good reason), but his competition is about as bad as Jones' was... Why give him a free pass? What makes him worthy of mention among the likes of Charles, Moore, Conn, etc when he wasn't tested either?

This concept proves my point (and long-time assertion): Just because they guy never did it doesn't mean he couldn't have done it.

That being said, Foster had bigger balls in fighting bigger men and had a more aggressive, usually busier style, but those really are side issues to the point, but they do contribute to the image of confidence of ability against the best available opposition.

 

Right, but Rocky faced the lhw champ of his day so ofcourse it's fair to match him with the lhw champ of any other day.

 

if you really believe that we'll just end the conversation here :good

 

I believe Marciano nearly killed a man with his punches once.

 

Jones would have NOTHING to keep Marciano away from him...The Rock steamrolls RJJ...

 

moo

 

TRUTH :good

 

I laugh at threads like this. Reminds me of the time Max Kellerman said Roy Jones would beat Joe Frazier. :roflatsch

 

I think Jones would have an excellent chance, especially in a big ring.

One thing I see here is people constantly ascribing to Rocky attributes he did not have. Reading some of this stuff, you would think that Marciano set a Margarito-like pace in the ring. He didn't, and that's the problem. Marciano stalked slowly and lunged in. That was his style. I don't think it would work against a prime Roy Jones. Even Marciano's typical stance in the ring (hunched over to his right) is not conducive to hunting down Roy Jones.

When did Marciano ever chase down a guy as mobile and elusive as a prime Jones? Guys like Walcott, Charles, and Moore basically just stood right in front of Marciano. Jones wouldn't be doing that.

The kind of style that I think would give prime Jones problems would be a high-volume, running after you, Margarito, Glen Johnson, Calzaghe type of style, where the guy is willing and able to take hard punches to land his own. And I don't think Johnson or Calzaghe beat prime Jones, who could keep them turning in the middle of the ring, running into power punches until they are stopped or lose a decision. But anyway, that's not Marciano's style.

People have this image of Marciano beating up some guy against the ropes, throwing a lot of punches. But think about how long it takes Marciano to get them there and finish them. And these were guys who stood right in front of him. Walcott and Charles were past their primes and still managed to go 13 and 15 rounds with Marciano - and neither of them was known for having a stellar chin.

 

Just like he steamrolled Charles in 15, huh? And Charles was about the same size as Roy Jones.