Fernando Vargas vs Julian Jackson at 154

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  1. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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  2. Thread Stealer

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    I've got Vargas ending the fight on the canvas, half-conscious.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vargas gets Buster Drayton'd.... and early.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

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    Prime Vargas was no bum as Trolly McTrollface would suggest - but he does get KTFO by Jackson. He'd last maybe longer than Graham before getting caught with the big one, but not much..
     
  5. Bonecrusher

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    Jackson by early KO!!
     
  6. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Vargas is one tough cookie with heart and skill. But his propensity to get hit too much is suicide against Jackson's crippling powershots.

    JJ KO 3
     
  7. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vargas' face looks like a slab of raw meat after Jackson connects.
     
  8. ThinBlack

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    Vargas wears out Jackson, and kayoes him in the eleventh.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you serious? JJ would decapitate Vargas.
     
  10. red cobra

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    Jackson by round 2, Vargas goes via the Norris route.
     
  11. Jon Saxon

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    :lol:
     
  12. zadfrak

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    Vargas does not have the defense to last more than about 7 rounds. And that elbows out style does provide automatic openings.

    The big thing is if Vargas gets hurt with like 90 seconds left in the round, what's he going to do? He just does not have a bag of tricks or the survival instincts against a finisher like this. And he's a guy that trades and he had a habit of pressing on the gaspedal when he lands a few nice shots. Very very dangerous against Julian and I think a pick and peck style would suit him better > landing than his turn to slugger switch.
     
  13. The Funny Man 7

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    Call me crazy but I think Vargas takes it. Sure he wasn't as fast as Norris, but his intelligent pressure would keep Jackson busy defending himself. Both Jackson and Vargas were a little chinny. Jackson has the massive edge in power but Vargas was very heavy handed as an accumulation puncher at 154.

    Vargas is more skillful, defensively sound, well-conditioned, and aggressive than Jackson. He was also far more versatile, accurate, and a better combination puncher. I can definitely see Jackson icing Vargas as others have said, but I don't think its totally laughable to predict Vargas.
     
  14. lora

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    Got to disagree with almost that entire second paragraph, Funny.Combination punching quite close, but jackson takes most of the other categories imo.Neither fighter particularly versatile.

    imo Vargas as a "ruined talent" has ended up being a bit overstated over the past ten years.He was just a solid workhorse of a fighter, no real standout abilities.Certainly not too skillful, offensively very dangerous or defensively cultured....he actually reminded of a young boxing mode Gatti, just a notch better in most areas.A notch,but still a toiler.

    Jackson was the better boxer-puncher at his peak without even getting into power and Vargas has neither the generalship, technique or power needed to win a fight like this.

    Jackson will slip one of those slow telegraphed jabs of Nando's sooner or later and mangle him with a counter.Or just land a lead right down the pipe of that open square on stance that turns the fight for him.

    Once his power has given him the initiative i don't see what Vargas can do to regain it.
     
  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Good post. I agree with it.....Not sure if Vargas was more accurate though.