The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok so floyd is not really cleaning the sport as what he claims and what you *****s actually believe. :lol:
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not about USADA, VADA, the NFL or the NBA testing protocol.....it's about the entire situation that makes up negotiations. It's a "back and forth" or compromise where BOTH sides have to be willing to "give and take" if they are serious about solidifying a deal.

    Had Floyd said he wanted the NFL....I'm sure Bob would have shot back and asked for the NBA or even USADA to oversee the testing Floyd wanted. In negotiations between two juggernauts it's a "Power struggle" and eventually in a successful negotiation both sides should come out feeling as though they are satisfied with the final contract.

    The problem with these negotiations is Floyd didn't want to compromise....or when he would compromise he'd add in other stipulations or excuses that caused more ripples in the process that ultimately stalled the fight indefinitely.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    *****s think it's a legit excuse.
     
  4. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sweet......Stop trying so hard.:lol: What:huh.....You think by spitting a single bar from one of JayZ's records you're off the hook and no longer a corny ass nucca?:rofl Nah.....with that weak sauce you've just bought yourself a lifetime pass, Cornball.

    You mean to tell me that you don't think that the "ol mighty dollar" wouldn't be enough for the NBA or NFL to work with Floyd on testing protocol for a fight that realistically would have broke ALL revenue records for sports in the history of sports?:rofl OK buddy.....you're really special.

    Why are you asking me about "proof"....I thought that was your shtick... Not having proof, but just riding with any old accusations that Floyd tosses out. He didn't have any proof when he accused PAC of being on PEDs or the "A side of meff". Now all the sudden Floyd takes all his accusations back and "Proof" is all the sudden important to you? That's cute...

    By the way.....you realize USADA doesn't even handle the blood tests, right? They have contracted labs who they work with to handle the urine and blood samples.....USADA has representatives in place who "collect" the samples which are then sent to those contracted labs who analyze and test the samples.

    The NFL and the NBA wouldn't have any problems working that kind of **** out especially if it benefited them in some way.

    You wanna know what "everyone knows", Sweet? That you're a major CORNBALL. Real Talk.:yep

    Come back with some more "weak sauce" Sweetness.....I'm guessing you have another verse from another rapper that you've been keeping in your back pocket for me.:roll:
     
  5. casian72

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    you do understand the art of negotiations right? Cuz your stating that only Floyd change the conditions.

    During these years of negotiating both men have fought and their leverage has fluctuated. when Manny decided to walk away from the first negotiations he essentially forfeited the conditions of those negotiations. Floyd then dominates Mosley and states publicly that the 14 day cutoff is no longer on the table. He took advantage of the leverage the Mosley win gave him in the negotiations.

    But then team Pac comes back to the table and demands the conditions from the previous negotiations when they had refused them originally. The didnt want to admit they had lost negotiating ground so Arum goes on a smear campaign and puts up that silly clock as a smoke screen.

    This is not to say that Floyd is not just as guilty cuz he is. But the true villian and impediment to this fight coming to fruition is and has always been Arum. His greed knows no bounds. and unless he controlled both fighters he was not gonna put up his cash cow in such a risky fight. cuz if pac lost arum would be without his steady stream of mega cash.

    Its really sad because most fans dont realize that by them continuing to buy the crappy PPVs being put on by both fighters they were contributing to the fight not getting made? Both men still made a **** load of money in much less risky fights and they still have the fans hooked cuz if they decide to finally make the fight next year, i will still buy it. SMFH.
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    get a lifeeee
     
  7. bahobilat

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    laughing at the *****s here.

    you **** sucking bunch of idiots.
     
  8. casian72

    casian72 Active Member Full Member

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    you have to be careful with these Pacturds cuz you as a boxing fan stated your opinion that Floyd would beat Manny. In their eyes that makes you a *****. Even though as you stated you would be rooting for Manny. Their nuthuggery of Pac knows no bounds. I am not a fan of Manny but I watch his fights cuz i love boxing. I even rooted for him in the Margo fight cuz I wanted that ****en plaster wearing cheater to get the **** beat out of him. So for that lonely fight i was cheering Manny on. cuz as each round went on the beating was vicious. But the LMW belt being up for grabs was pathetic. I was embarrassed for boxing when they anounced him as an eight division champ.
     
  9. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I understand negotiations homie....I've been in MANY negotiations in my profession. Which is why I NEVER bought that Floyd really wanted this fight. Why? Simple....

    Floyd didn't act in the normal fashion he had always exhibited before when negotiating previous fights.

    Floyd never came out blasting opponents with accusations that could harm or destroy a career...Floyd never needed special tests for any of his other opponents before PAC was on the radar.

    Think of it this way.....Making a fight isn't that much different than any business negotiations.

    Let me paint you a picture....Let's say Floyd represents "Apple inc" and PAC represents "GOOGLE". Let's say Apple and GOOGLE were in negotiations to make some MASSIVE deal that would generate HUGE profits.

    Let's take the negotiations model that Floyd took when "negotiating" the fight with PAC.

    Apple does a press release insulting GOOGLE....accusing GOOGLE of unethical business practices and then DEMANDS GOOGLE to subject themselves to an internal audit by a company that Apple hired.

    We all know that if Apple went that route, it means Apple NEVER really wanted to make a deal with GOOGLE in the first place....

    GOOGLE wouldn't have even thought of using PAC's negotiation model after that ****....GOOGLE would have killed any thought of any further negotiations with Apple and the proposed business partnership would have been dead in the water.

    Floyd's actions speak louder than anything his mouth could produce. His actions prove he doesn't want to fight PAC....no matter what his mouth says......his actions contradict anything he says when it comes to fighting Manny.

    If Floyd wanted to fight PAC he would have shown the actions of a man who was looking to "CLOSE" the deal...not "SABOTAGE" it.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    bang on! the PEDs accusation while negotiating gives away the fact that floyd is not negotiating for the fight in good faith.he wants to defeat pac, in the press and not in the ring. if floyd has no problem with fighting pac, he could have fought him instantly like jmm or ortiz.
     
  11. KnuckleUp99

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    The funny thing is I think Floyd would and should be the favorite over PAC. I think most feel the same way......the problem is FLOYD isn't as confident as all his die hard fans who view this situations through "rose colored" lenses.

    Floyd could have easily negotiated this fight with PAC and successfully got a career high payday and potentially the most important "W" of his career.

    Anyone who believes Floyd's actions pointing to someone who "REALLY WANTED TO MAKE THIS FIGHT" are straight up knuckle heads.

    If the roles were reversed and PAC did and said all the things Floyd has in this process I'd be saying all this **** about Manny not really wanting to make the fight with Floyd. I'm just calling like I see it.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Welcome. :thumbsup Make yourself at home.
     
  13. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To clean up the Sport? :D
     
  14. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why it took him so long, he shoul've done that earlier when Roy Jones, Toney tested possitive
     
  15. bballchump11

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