Post your all time top 10 Super Middleweights

based off accomplishments, I have Ward higher on that list. Obviously, Roy would be number one H2H, but on resume, Ward is higher than Eubank at least

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why does he have to beat Froch twice? I don't get the point of that. The first fight wasn't that close.

I have a Cuban in my avatar

 

generalizations are never good
that would be like me saying only a brit would have 2 brits who never took on the best in the world as their top 2 SMW's ever

 

but thats your pro-british take on things
you'll rarely see people who watched boxing on an international level and knew the importance of fighting on an international stage give guys like calzaghe and benn props

EDIT : and eubank

 

you can find dozens of fighters who never crossed the pond and never got a profile outside of britain...germany..wherever - who you can say this about

but you cant say it about fighters like hatton who actually made these fights happen

 

thats like saying fighters like sturm and sylvester were 'avioded' when they did the same thing guys like benn, eubank and calzaghe did - stayed away from the states, made a lotof money fighting on their promoters terms, but never got a defining fight or recognition that, some of them at least, should have got
you cant then blame the fighters who climbed to the very top for not taking fights with those who werent willing to take the same chances, raise their profiles, and put themselves in a genuine place to negotiate these fights

 

all i'm saying is its easy to see you're british and were brought up watching these fighters - not trying to patronise you, its just easy to see the bias

joe deserves props, but joe and war+en decided $$ was more important than recognition internationally
thats exactly - exactly - what it came down to and why he polarises fans

 

i have to duck out for 20
i'll be more than happy to continue this debate when i get back if you guys are still on