Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Skittlez, Sep 30, 2012.


  1. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    see boxing fans are picking all of the other guys ans spreading out the votes. All the *******s are choosing Pacquiao
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Because Floyd's fans know about the other fighters as well, and the pacturds are just voting Pacquiao :deal
     
  3. Hands of Iron

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    Holyfield.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Pea :twisted:
     
  5. Hands of Iron

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    :****
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Well played sir :lol: :!:
     
  7. bigdog2001

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    oscar needs to be here. When nobody, including Trinidad wanted nothing to do with an undefeated quartey, whom i belive had the chin and the right hand to beat trinidand.

    Oscar gave an undefeated mosley a shot at his title, and lost a very close but decisive fight, however in the rematch he clearly avenged this loss.


    I can go on and on but clearly oscar was always looking for the best challenge so that he could fullfill his legacy, had he been like mayweather he could have possibly gone undefeated!!
     
  8. JohnAnthony

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    i find it impressive when a fighter does this when he doesn't have to as well.

    Oscar could have made alot of money in his career fighting well marketed fights but he didnt, he constantly sought out challenges.

    Very few fighters do this. When they hit the top of the sport its all about low risk high reward.

    Mosley was the same. He got to the top of the sport number 1 p4p. What does he do? He takes on Forrest and Wright!!!
     
  9. bigdog2001

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    they dont make them like that anymore!!!

    a prime oscar, mosely and trinindad all take a prime mayweather!!!

    Mayweather was last of the good ones he just happnened to be born a few years later and stand out since the competiton of boxing in the U.S.A has deteriated vastly becasue of lack of gyms and boxing schools.

     
  10. Skittlez

    Skittlez Guest

    Ok time to bust some misconceptions.


    1- Evander Holyfield have a very good resume, but his heavyweight resume is HIGHLY overrated.

    Let's just take a look at Holyfield's HEAVYWEIGHT RESUME compare to Lennox's.

    Let's go by timeline here.
    Michael Dokes
    Is he a better win then a Young Lennox's 15th fight against a 100% KO Artist and 35-0 Champion Gary Mason?

    Lewis knocked out Tyrell Biggs in 3 rounds,Ruddock in 2, knocked out Bruno and beat Mercer.
    Surely that is equal if not better then beating Stewart and going life/death with a old Larry Holmes over a UD 12? Throw in the Foreman win as well.

    After that Holyfield's best wins at HEAVYWEIGHT
    were against a semi shot Tyson, Riddick Bowe and Michael Moorer.
    All good wins. But Lewis had wins over a Prime Golota, Morrison,Briggs, and Mavoric.
    All four were good boxers and 3 of the 4 were monster punchers.


    Up to this point IF WE DON'T COUNT THE LOSSES. Holyfield is definitely ahead. But here is what elevates Lewis above Holyfield.

    After all these fights, what came next is the Lewis vs Holyfield I and II
    Lewis won 18 of the 24 Rounds against Holyfield according to most experts.
    10-2 in the first fight, and 8-4 in the 2nd.
    At worst, you can make it 9-3 in the 1st and 7-5 in the 2nd.
    Regardless he beat Holyfield in both fights.
    AFTER THAT. Lewis went on to beat massive puncher David Tua, a hyper hyped 6'8 giant in Michael Grant, a shot Tyson, avenged the Rahman lost and beat a Prime future Champion in Vitali.

    The Vitali win is vastly underrated, Vitali ended up being the 2nd greatest HW of his era. While Lewis was doing all this, Holyfield was losing to John Ruiz :)O), and had a slew of losses as well.


    If you take out the CW Resume of Holyfield, I just don't see how the Hell anyone can say Holyfield have a better HW Resume.


    What's more impressive.
    Being a Prime Holyfield and winning once in 3 tries against Riddick Bowe.

    Or being a 38 year old, fat, under motivated, semi retired, on his way out Lewis beating Prime Vitali?

    Lewis also avenged both his defeats. Something no other HW Champ have ever done in the history of the sport.


    See a lot of people actually don't know **** about Heavyweights these days, because the midgets are taking all the attention away. Also because K2 is boring.
    But in actuality, Holyfield's HW run is inferior to Lennox, just like Holyfield is inferior to Lewis as a boxer, a fighter, and a human being.

    If you throw in Evan Field's CW resume though, than it's debatable.
     
  11. Skittlez

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    This is a very good point. People forget Oscar could have cherry picked and still end up being one of the richest fighters ever. 90% of his fanbase don't know who the **** he was fighting. He could have sold against any 'name', he didn't need challenges, but he took them anyways.
     
  12. Hands of Iron

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    Though I don't necessarily know Oscar would've been GOAT if he'd won all his fights. What if Duran had beaten Tommy Hearns at 154 and Marvin Hagler at 160? :rofl :rofl Both of them were at their Absolute PEAK. That's some ****ing cajones. SRL didn't even want peak Marvin.
     
  13. JohnAnthony

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    in terms of talent yes he's good. but not in terms of what i'm on about.

    Mayweather is about what ever makes the most money for least risk. And even he'll admit that.

    Oscar cared about a boxing legacy. Floyd does not.
     
  14. Skittlez

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    I agree with most of your posts and theories. Other than Holyfield ranking > Lewis (which I already explained a few posts up )

    and Jones >Pacquaio. I'm not even a Pac fan but to say Jones have a better resume is outrageous. I think a lot of people forgot about Jone's TRUE MW-SMW run. What Jones did at LHW and the latter parts of his SMW days made him a great champion, but his early and mid MW-SMW runs is highly suspicious.

    992- Roy Jones Jr became a legit MW top 3 fighter.

    At that time these were the top middleweights.
    Julian Jackson
    James Toney (Toney at this stage of his career had NO issues making weight)
    Reggie Johnson
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Mike McCallum
    Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn were hovering between 160-168

    Roy in 1992 fought Jorge Vaca, Art Serwano,Glenn Thomas, Percy Harris, and Glenn Wolfe.




    1993
    Roy has now become the #1 MW in the world.
    These were his peers
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Gerald McClellan
    John David Jackson
    Reggie Johnson
    Julian Jackson
    Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn were hovering between 160-168

    Roy avoided the murderous punchers and fought a relatively unknown Bernard Hopkins. Who became an ATG, but at that point in time, Bernard was not seen as a threat what so ever. After Hopkins Roy went on to fight
    'Fermin Chirino"


    1994-1995
    Roy Jones Jr is now considered the best 168 fighter in the world.

    Right behind him were
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank
    Frankie Liles
    Tim Littles
    Michael Nunn


    JAMES TONEY WAS RANKED AS A LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT by the end of that year.


    Roy Jones Jr decided to fight a clearly weight issued Toney and
    DANNY GARCIA.

    James Toney was probably Roy's best win ever.



    So once again. Toney was a huge win and so was a green Hopkins, but he avoided a **** load of competition during his MW-SMW reign.



    Also people saying a Green Roy beating up a Green Bernard is a 'great win' because they were both 'green' and 'inexperienced' is stupid.

    Roy Jones relies on his freakish athletic abilities, reflexes, and speed. Bernard got better with age, because he was a great boxer who got better with experience. A Green Roy fought a lot like a Prime Roy, the green Bernard who lost to Roy fought NOTHING like a Prime Bernard.
     
  15. silenc

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    Does achievements has anything to do with resume? Like 20 title defenses? Or staying undefeated for almost 90 fights?
    And how we define ATG? Is it achievements+resume+skill? I just dont get it.