Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Skittlez, Sep 30, 2012.


  1. brownshell

    brownshell Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield fight every top fighter at each weight he was in.

    None of the others can say that!!!
     
  2. Skittlez

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    I think it's resume+ achievements +skills in that order.

    In my opinion the quality of wins have got to be much more important than stat numbers.

    Like for example if Ali at age 38 had pulled off the upset over Holmes, it would have been a much better win than Foreman's over Moorer, despite the fact Foreman broke the record books.
     
  3. FutureChampGG

    FutureChampGG Member Full Member

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    **** losses??? :patsch

    I just don't get this approach to rating resumes at all. Of course losses count otherwise, as has been said it this thread, Oscar would have a decent claim to be the GOAT.

    Hopkins losing to Taylor twice counts, all of Holyfield's losses count etc etc etc. You can't just flat out ignore the outcome of the fights and just look at who people faced.

    Far too many losses are over looked by fan boys who only focus on the positive results of their hero's career and can't / won't see a balanced assessment of their resume.
     
  4. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True....in others words just fight in matches where you're more likely to lose but come up big. I didn't think BHOP was going to beat Pavlik and Tarver but he did = great resume for me. Same thing with Martinez when he beat Williams and Pavlik.
     
  5. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    :yep
     
  6. Skittlez

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    I'm going to use this guy's quotes to give a few more examples of what he said.

    When under dogs win, that is a big bonus to their resume. Right now everyone can look back and say
    wow Lennox Lewis is definitely definitely better than Golota, Mason, and Ruddock, BUT AT THE TIME.

    1- Gary Mason. 35-0 Super Champion 35 KO'S. Knocked out every guy he ever faced

    against 15-0 Young Lennox. Everyone thought Lewis was stepping up way too fast and was going to get brutally starched. Lewis knocked him out.

    2- Razer Ruddock
    Lewis was an underdog. Ruddock took Tyson to hell and back, what chance does a Brit have? Lewis knocked him out in 2.


    3- Golota vs Lewis
    Lewis was a big under dog. Golota dominated Bowe 2x. AT THE VERY LEAST, people expected a life-death fight against Lewis. Most predicate Golota KO.

    Lewis knocked him out in 40 seconds.



    3 Massively under rated wins.
     
  7. Skittlez

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    I respect Tyson, but the only time he was an underdog was against Lennox Lewis.

    The reasons it's different with Lennox and Bernard being under dogs so many times and winning compared to say
    a Rahman or Douglas, is Rahman and Douglas never duplicated their big upsets again.

    Bernard and Lennox proved time and time again they can beat the odds and beat the favorite.
     
  8. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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  9. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do you think he's 2nd on the list :lol:.
     
  10. Skittlez

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    Also I know a lot of people bash Pacquaio's win over Oscar.

    But once again AT THE TIME, he was a under dog. Numerous boxing experts and analysts thought Oscar was just going to be too big and strong for Manny.
    This is important because it don't matter what anyone say NOW, at the time Manny costed a big upset and it is a good win.




    Further QUOTES of
    Lewis-Golota.


    From boxing experts

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    "Golota will force Lewis into his kind of a fight, and his power will be the determining factor in the bout." - Dave Bontempo, ESPN Boxing Analyst

    "Golota is an underrated fighter who doesn't get enough credit. He will have leaned his lessons from the Bowe fights and will finish off Lewis." - Anthony Gargano, New York Post

    "Golota in two rounds - no contest. I think Lewis talks, but can't back it up with the the walk. Golota will absolutely be too much for him." - Dan Hirshberg, The Trentonian

    "Golota will put too much pressure on Lewis, who will make the mistake of slugging it out with him." - Steve Sneddon, Gannet News Service

    "It'll be close through four, and then Golota hits and hurts Lewis in the fifth with a booming right. He then proceeds to wear Lewis down for a ninth-round win." - Chris Thorne, Newark Star-Ledger

    "Golota will turn the fight into a war. he can take a shot. Lewis will try to keep his distance but won't be able to for long." - Robert Seltzer, El Paso Times.
     
  11. devon

    devon Guest

    None of those are as good as Holyfields win over Tyson
     
  12. Imperial1

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    Its a great list but Holy is up there ..
     
  13. Skittlez

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    Of course not.

    Lennox Lewis's resume is based on a wide collection of victories over good fighters. He never had his Frazier or his Foreman. What he did have is a list of great punchers, world class fighters,iron chin warriors, and slick skilled veterans which all combined to make up one of the greatest resumes in HW history.

    Holyfield had his Tyson moment, Lewis had multiple moments of smaller magnitude.

    Also Tyson fan boys are under rating the Mike of 2000-2002. Mike was far removed from his prime, but he was still a pretty good fighter compare to heavyweights overall.

    Ask yourselves this.

    2001-2002 Tyson vs David Haye.
    Who takes it?
    It's 50-50, maybe 40-60 to Haye and that's stretching it.

    David Haye is one of Wladimir's top 3 wins.
     
  14. silenc

    silenc dropout bear Full Member

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    Skittlez, good win its not huge upset. It's about how good fighter you beat. That's the reason Tyson, Ali and SRL is my top3 victories in boxing history. Of course upset gives you a little boost, but it doesn't mean that victory like Formen over Moorer will have higher value than Frazier victory over Ali.
    Baldomir win over Judah aint nothing huge, in terms of WIN, but it was big upset.
     
  15. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    An argument could and SHOULD be made that he was undefeated when he fought delahoya, and hell, an argument could be made that he was still undefeated even after the fight.

    He is so under appreciated IMO that it's borderline shameful.