Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Skittlez, Sep 30, 2012.


  1. Skittlez

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    Frazier over Ali is an upset as well.
    I know what you mean though and I 100% agree with you. What I mean is
    say we use a 'points system' for wins. If Lewis was a big favorite over Golota, that's a 8 Point win. But because Lewis was an underdog, it should be a 9 point win. Etc
    I'm just saying when you cost upsets, the wins should be valued a bit more.
     
  2. Skittlez

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    ESB is just a tiny portion of the boxing world, but he is right where he should be. Around Lennox and Pacquaio for joint 1st on this poll.
    Pacquaio's votes are outrageous on this site, but he definitely is top 3 over the last 25 years. I won't say #1, but top 3 for sure.
     
  3. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ive gone Pacquiao simply because he has the edge in decisions over three great fighters.

    Would have gone for Oscar but not listed.
     
  4. DrMo

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    Holyfield

    20 years after beating Qawi in only his 12th fight he fought Valuev to a debatable decision. In between he unified the cruiserweight division, became HW champion 4 times & had more wars & great fights than anyone else.
     
  5. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah. hopkins had a pretty shitty reign at middleweight. there's some good names, but mostly, it's crap. his fights at the lightheavy division are better, but it still came against fighters out of their natural weight division. calzaghe beat the man that beat them.

    that's why his resume is better.
     
  6. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl love how you laugh at me picking calzaghe over hopkins resume wise, but you pick hopkins and jones of lennox lewis. :rofl:rofl

    you're the one who needs to **** off out of here. :deal
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    don'yt get me wrong, it counts, otherwise delahoya could have been one of the very best to laced them up. but when you have such a crazy opposition such as holyfield, those loses, especially close ones would be offsetted by his desire to fight the best. that's why guys like calzaghe and floyd can maintain their "0" but it would go back to questioning the oppositions they fought.
     
  8. DrMo

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    Yes, Dokes looked good on the comeback trail & was still a very good fighter. Mason & Stewart are a better comparison, both unbeaten with perfect KO ratios.

    The Biggs & Tucker fights arent any better than Holy's wins over Thomas & Tillis. Holy beat plenty of ranked guys to get his title shot, at that time he doesnt have a single HW win as good as Lewis vs Ruddock although it must be said the Ruddock was never the same after the 2 Tyson fights.

    Foreman was unbeaten in his comeback at that point & was a dangerous opponent for anyone, it was a good win & a good performance by Holy. He didnt go life & death with Holmes, he won by a mile & Holmes had just beaten Mercer.

    Tyson wasnt considered semishot when Holy dismantled him, he was probably #1 HW on the planet, as was Bowe when Holy beat him. Moorer was IBF champ & one of the best HW around. I'd say thats better competition than Golata, Morrison, Briggs & the bread hustler.

    Lewis didnt face the level of competition Holy did for as long as Holy did, its not suprising Holy has more losses. In his prime he lost against superior opposition to Lewis' losses.

    By the time of 2 fights with Lewis he had already beaten virtually everyone from the 1990's HW scene & shouldve been considering retiring, like Lewis did after Vitali.

    Instead he fought on for years, beating Ruiz, Rahman & was unlucky against Valuev.


    Quite simply, Holyfields HW resume has greater depth & longevity. He won more fights against the odds & was written off time & again, only to come back victorious. Add his CW achievments to his record & Holyfield ranks a lot higher ATGwise than Lennox.
     
  9. Skittlez

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    Lewis beat a still elite Holyfield twice. Where does that count in their comparisons? In a situation like this, you have got to factor in the h2hs'. Holyfield showed all the signs of an still elite fighter during their first fight. He just got dominated 10-2, arguably 11-1.

    I scored the first fight 12-0 Lewis. A shut out. That was actually a much bigger robbery then Pac-Bradley. Bradley actually won 4 rounds (arguably)

    Holyfield won like 2 rounds max. He got his azz beaten half to death and needed another batch of steroids to survive after the fight.
     
  10. Skittlez

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    You noticeably omitted Lennox's big wins after 1999. What about Tua, Grant, Vitali, Tyson?

    Tua was one of the biggest punchers in the division, Grant was considered the 'next big thing', Vitali was the 2nd best HW of his era, and Tyson at the time was still a decent fighter. He would have beaten Alexander Povetkin to death (Povetkin is the third best HW in the world atm)
     
  11. Skittlez

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    If Oscar had won all his fights, a case could be made.
    If Oscar had gone undefeated against the guys he fought, it would have been shocking lol.

    Prime Pac, Prime May, Prime Hopkins,
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Sums him up nicely !:good
     
  13. Skittlez

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    Good point.
     
  14. DrMo

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    I had the 1st fight 9-3 Lewis & the 2nd 7-5. Holy wasnt in his prime but was still an elite HW who shouldve been considering retiring.

    I rank Lewis higher as a HW because he was more consistent than Holy & beat him twice, not because he has a better resume.

    Lennox's biggest wins came after the 2 Holy fights, but I think Holy's 1st title run was even better (Douglas, Foreman, Holmes & Cooper).

    You noticeably omitted Mercer, who Lewis went life & death with after Holy had beaten him much more convincingly :D
     
  15. nahkis

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    Lewis voted 2nd :lol: