If today's HW division is so terrible, then why didn't Rahman win?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Using the logic of the resident ESB classic nutheads today's HW division is utter crap and doesn't compare to the glorious 80s and 90s.

    Then why didn't former lineal HW champion Rahman win his title bouts in 2012 or 2008, just like Foreman did in the 90s? If this division was as terrible as people claim then Rahman would have won his fights with ease yet he got stopped like an overmatched journeyman :deal
     
  2. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is totally shot. And, he only won the lineal championships by KO'ing Lewis, an impressive feat but 1 punch doesn't make him an ATG/HOF. He was a poor lineal champ.
     
  3. Skittlez

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    1- Not one person said the 80's was better you moron.

    2- The 90's is better, you can make a case for any other era but not the 90's. Prime Lewis would have knocked out Povetkin using his jab alone and you should know that.


    3- I got a counter question for you.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434048
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    This isn't about #1 from 90s beating #1 of today. This is about how terrible this era's HW as a whole supposedly are. If there was any truth to this era being shitty, then Rahman (former top 5 HW, former lineal HW champ) would at least be a top 20 HW today. Heck maybe even be competitive in a title bout.

    But he's probably not even a top 100 HW. In fact he's just an awful club fighter and that just goes to show that the 80s and 90s weren't much deeper than the 2000s and 2010s :deal

    If the 90s were so deep and great as you say, how come a fat 45 year old Foreman was able to win a belt, knocking out a glass-jawed former LHW? :hi:
     
  5. Skittlez

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434048

    Explain how despite the fact there are more Eastern Euros at 140-175, they have horrible records mostly and only have a few elite fighters.

    Yet the HEAVYWEIGHT division which everyone says is horrible have MORE Eastern Euros ranked as compare to LHW,SMW,WW,MW etc.... the divisions that actually have elite fighters......
     
  6. KidDynamite

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    Because he's old as hell and can barely even speak or even think coherently

    The fact that he can even contend for a title and was a mandatory challenger for a belt makes this era even more pathetic

    Foreman was a different story, he was relatively healthy and wasn't shot to hell like Rahman

    The 90s and the 80s are both stronger than this b*tch era
     
  7. Skittlez

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    The fact that he became a mandatory challenger for the belt alone indicates how horrible the division is.. you should know that.
    Come on.. a non top 100 guy is a mando for Povetkin?
    lol,.... Rahman became Mando because of how horrible the era is.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because Rahman was shot. The fact is, if this was a strong or even average era, someone as old and shot as Rahman would never have got two title fights.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    if there was a such thing as legitimate ratings and not 10 belts, rahman wouldnt have been ranked in the top 100 and this wouldnt be an issue
     
  10. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch Have you ever to the time to think that maybe his age has something to do with it??

    You guys are ****ing stupid at times!:verysad
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh Eastern Europeans rule the HW division so that proves it's a weak division? Because they don't rule the lower weight classes? :lol: Now I've heard it all!

    Let's see: South Americans used to rule the lower weight classes, but they never were any good at CW and HW. Following your moronic argument that must mean the lighter weight divisions were always incredibly weak, how else could the weak latinos ever have dominated them :hi:

    You realize your argument is shot to pieces once you realize that the average height and weight of fighters is highly correlated to their ethnicity :deal
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sorry the truth hurts. Rahman is 40, Foreman was 45 :deal
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    And a 45 year old 275lbs George ****in' Foreman wasn't? And still he knocked out a 90s belt holder and claimed a major belt in the supposedly 'deepest and best division in many decades'.
     
  14. Skittlez

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    You are not following logic, everyone else did.


    1- The SMW-LHW Divisions have MORE Eastern Euros competing there than HW.

    The only difference is that there are more fighters from OTHER nations competing there as well..


    2- There are MORE Eastern European SWW-MW's than HW'S... yet because there are elite fighters from other nations there as well, it evens out.


    Your logic will only make sense if Eastern Europeans have MORE heavyweights as compare to their other division fighters. .They don't. The other divisions are also PACKED with Eastern Euros, they are just much lower ranked..



    3- Rahman became challenger, that says it all for this era.
     
  15. madballster

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    And a 45 year old shot Foreman magically became Michael Moorer's mandatory, what does that tell you about the quality of the 90s HWs? :deal